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Great arm strength | 19 | 32.76% | |
Great accuracy | 45 | 77.59% | |
Scrambling Ability | 17 | 29.31% | |
Understanding when to give up on a play | 24 | 41.38% | |
Work ethic | 42 | 72.41% | |
Natural athletic ability | 25 | 43.10% | |
Leading game winning drives on a consistent basis | 35 | 60.34% | |
Playoff success | 29 | 50.00% | |
Intelligence | 44 | 75.86% | |
Lunch pail kinda guy | 6 | 10.34% | |
High motor | 8 | 13.79% | |
Having a strong support system around him | 11 | 18.97% | |
Drinks blue Gatorade | 3 | 5.17% | |
Proper diet | 9 | 15.52% | |
Doesn't "Big Ben" people | 8 | 13.79% | |
Film study | 34 | 58.62% | |
Willingness to be coached | 34 | 58.62% | |
Good with the media | 12 | 20.69% | |
Taking head from random strangers in their car | 10 | 17.24% | |
GAZ | 6 | 10.34% | |
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09-12-2019, 07:40 PM | #16 |
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Field vision, fast post snap processing speed (Able to go through progressions quickly), anticipation, pocket presence & mobility, ability to throw under pressure/getting hit & atleast good accuracy/ball placement.
I dont think any of those traits are teachable either really. You either got it or you dont. Gotta be able to read defenses pre snap eventually & I do think that's teachable. A really strong arm & a quick release aren't a necessity but they really do help as we see. Mobility to get out of the pocket and/or run is also helpful but also not a necessity as we've seen with countless pocket QBs. And obviously durability, intelligence, work ethic, leadership skills & the desire to be great are a must. Last edited by Priest31kc; 09-12-2019 at 07:46 PM.. |
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09-12-2019, 07:43 PM | #17 |
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There's so much variation. Favre wasn't a film guy, but was great. Lots of great QB's are not mobile.
As far as I can tell there's only 3 traits required of a great QB. Three traits that ALL of them have. 1. Accuracy. Pretty self explanatory. 2. Toughness. Guys who panic in the pocket or won't play through pain can't be great. 3. Better than average arm strength. If you can't make all the NFL throws, you can't be great. It's really the combination of traits that make a QB great. The more positive traits he accumulates, the more successful he'll probably be. Things like immobility can be compensated for with film study. You can't compensate for the 3 things I mentioned. If you don't have them, you can't simply compensate with other skills. You HAVE to have those 3 things. |
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09-12-2019, 08:05 PM | #18 |
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You're new here, so I'll just say it. Middle school mentality is the predominant way of thinking in this place. But,it's the best place to come for Chiefs news and discussion. You need to decide for yourself if it's worth putting up with all of the juvenile bullshit or not. I recommend using the ignore feature liberally and sticking around. Jewish Rabbi should be one of the first to go on ignore. But, I think that you probably already figured that out.
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09-12-2019, 08:07 PM | #19 |
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Can I add that the QB should know the Earth is only 2000 years old?
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09-12-2019, 08:16 PM | #20 |
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09-12-2019, 08:40 PM | #21 |
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I'm going to divide these into 4 categories:
1) Absolutely Required The only 100% required traits are accuracy, intelligence, and understanding when to give up on a play. If you can read a defense, get the ball accurately to the right target, and not take unnecessary sacks / ints, your team can be successful, you can rack up stats, and you can be elite. 2) Not "required" but they'll be there Frankly we'd respect QBs More if they Didn't have natural athletic ability, or do film study, or have a high work ethic. Someone who shows up and improvises but is very successful? They'd rant and rave about what natural talent that shows and how great he could be if he also put in the work. People like to pretend Brady has no natural athletic ability both to knock him And to build up his legend. But in truth you're not going to be successful in the NFL if you don't have considerable natural athletic ability, and / or if you don't have a good work ethic or study film. 3) Resume Rounders Great Arm Strength, Scrambling Ability, High Motor, Game Winning Drives, and Playoff Success all help. They're not required per se, and especially not all together, but having one or more of them makes up for deficiencies elsewhere. That being said Marino was elite without considerable playoff success, Brady is elite with zero scrambling ability, and so forth. They help, but they're the icing on the cake, not the cake itself. 4) Not at all required The rest of the traits don't even factor into the conversation. They might help you personally, for example I'd argue it's better to have a willingness to be coached than not, and a proper diet will probably extend your longevity, but no one will consider you elite for possessing those traits, nor disqualify you for not having them. Just mho. |
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09-12-2019, 08:46 PM | #22 |
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09-13-2019, 04:32 AM | #23 |
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You're missing the winning answer by a mile.........STAYING HEALTHY AND INJURY FREE!
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09-13-2019, 04:44 AM | #24 |
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Poll is worthless... you just know when they are elite and there's no justification to it realliy.
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09-13-2019, 05:13 AM | #25 |
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09-13-2019, 06:31 AM | #26 |
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09-13-2019, 09:31 AM | #27 |
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I said great arm strength as part of my answer and as I hit the submit button I realized that while great arm strength is absolutely beneficial, it is not crucial.
But great accuracy, work ethic, coachability, film study and intelligence seem pretty obvious |
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09-13-2019, 09:34 AM | #28 |
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Yea know, that list is, well, basically....Pat Mahomes (minus the stranger in the car thing, and not sure about the Gaz thing.) Know what I'm saying...
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09-13-2019, 10:28 AM | #29 |
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A QB can be elite without elite-level athleticism or arm strength but they cannot be elite without the football IQ and intelligence.
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09-13-2019, 10:34 AM | #30 |
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