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Did tobacco companies previously deny that tobacco can cause cancer? Hint: the answer is yes. Sounds kind of familiar. Big multi billion dollar industry doesn’t want its piece of the pie shrunk so it denies scientific studies....... |
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03-05-2019, 02:10 PM | #3 | |
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03-05-2019, 02:21 PM | #4 | |
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So do oil companies have a responsibility to their shareholders to maximize their profits? Would discrediting scientific studies that support climate change help maximize profits? |
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03-05-2019, 02:32 PM | #5 | |
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Doesn't appear to work on sheeple, though. They just keep on believing. |
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03-05-2019, 05:21 PM | #6 |
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03-06-2019, 10:39 AM | #9 |
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03-06-2019, 03:49 PM | #10 | |
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I wonder if there's a documentary about that line of thinking. Last edited by Direckshun; 03-06-2019 at 03:57 PM.. |
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03-06-2019, 10:56 PM | #11 |
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You should come work in the government-funded windmill factory. Maybe the fiberglass flu would burn some sense into you.
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03-07-2019, 03:11 PM | #12 | |
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Defleckshun hates me and is too much of a pussy to ever respond to any of my posts, but for the benefit of everybody else who reads his drivel, or any of the other SCIENCE! fanbois, note that none of them responded to this:
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When some quack predicted that the ice cap would melt a decade ago, but it didn't, is that SCIENCE? |
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03-07-2019, 04:56 PM | #13 | |
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You say the climate has always changed. Well how exactly do you claim to know that? It's because you're using the same science that you claim is bunk, to try and prove this other science in bunk. This happens frequently with climate change denial. Simultaneous claims that we can't know the climate in the distant past, supported by claims that it's proven that climate has changed in the distant past. The Sahara was once lush and fertile. Yes, that's true. It's an example of how drastically climate can change over time. Deniers will also use lines like this, without understanding that the Sahara is proof that climate can be unstable and completely change from fertile to barren. Regarding claims that ice caps would melt, and the world would flood. Can you list any of the sources of those quotes? Of course you can't, because that doesn't matter to you. Do you know the number of scientists who predicted the end of the world, compared to the number of scientists who support climate change but refrain from fear mongering sensationalism? No you don't, because you only care about the individual opinion that you agree with and you choose to ignore the overwhelming consensus. If you actually looked into the subject, you'd find that your talking points all came from moron politicians with no understanding of the science. How about that claim that ice caps would melt? Did you know that you've gotten that one wrong in multiple ways? First, it wasn't a scientist who said it. It was Al Gore. Second, he didn't even say they'd melt completely he was only talking about summer melt. I challenge you to find a single actual climate scientist who made such claims. You claim that scientists are heavily compensated shills. OK, then who's paying them? Have you thought about that at all? Where's that magical money coming from and how are they making their millions? Are they making money by taxing people or businesses with carbon taxes? Nope. Are there huge climate change corporations reporting record profits? Nope. So where's all this slush money coming from? The government? Nope. Funding for climate change study has actually decreased over the last decade. As well as government subsidies for it. As this shows, renewable energy subsidies have been declining for over a decade: So tell me who's making these magical profits from climate change? Can you name a single climate change scientist who's a millionaire? A single one? |
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03-08-2019, 09:07 AM | #14 | |
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Therein lies the problem. We have ample evidence of climate change in the absence of human byproducts. Why then is it so important to blame humans for causing drastic climate change, even though they didn't cause the Ice Age, the Yucatan extinction, or the Sahara Desert? Oh that's right, because if man is causing them then man can be regulated and controlled into NOT causing them. That's the ONLY reason and you know it. |
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03-08-2019, 09:28 AM | #15 | |
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Even if we knew for certain that humans weren't causing any of it, that wouldn't mean we shouldn't do anything. You say the only reason is to make money. Well that's some selfish bullshit. Our climate is very clearly changing. Regardless of cause, we need to adapt. The scientific understanding of it is much greater than you think. And your claims of climate change funding scams are way off. I really recommend looking into the subject further and understanding how scientific funding and grants work. What you're claiming about funding and motivation is stuff straight from denial sites. |
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