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01-20-2022, 05:36 PM | #91 |
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Postman also good.
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01-20-2022, 05:40 PM | #92 |
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01-20-2022, 05:41 PM | #93 |
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01-20-2022, 05:49 PM | #94 |
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01-20-2022, 06:00 PM | #95 |
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01-20-2022, 06:27 PM | #96 |
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01-20-2022, 06:31 PM | #97 |
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Just killing time until Bowlcut announces Khaki Jim as HC.
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01-20-2022, 07:53 PM | #98 |
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01-20-2022, 08:06 PM | #99 |
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Waterworld!
What a colossal cluster****. The industry folklore about this movie is legendary. Pretty sure at one point during pre-production, Spielberg begged the filmmakers to reconsider things. They passed on ol' Steve's advice and plowed ahead... If memory serves, their biggest set, the floating town, was built offshore of one of the Hawaiian islands. Big storm come. Big storm make set float away. Ooops! Guess we have to rebuild this huge set again from scratch! Can we shoot anything in the meantime? The logistics were insane. Getting the actors ready on the mainland, putting everyone on boats to the sets with the crew and gear. Getting everything set up.... The delays were inevitable and preposterous. It was a budget catastrophe, but they just kept going. The media marketed it as the first $200 million movie ever. Titanic had the same budget, but not nearly the anxious press following it around, and it was released a year later and was universally lauded. But I'd rather sit through Waterworld than watch Titanic ever again, and I don't think I'm alone. It was the actual production of the movie that set the tone of it's "failure" at the box office. Viewed as a bloated out of control mess by the media and industry insiders, going wayyyy over schedule and over budget, it was a lightning rod of scrutiny and low hanging fruit. True story, Costner was hot shit at that time, and as everyone knows, we love to see our heroes rise, but we love it even more watching them fall. Wyatt Earp was his first foray into box office failure in years, another big budget movie. Earp also suffered from bad timing as Tombstone was the go to Earp movie at that time. Nobody wanted another Earp movie after seeing Val Kilmer kill it all in Tombstone. Damn shame too, because Dennis Quaid was awesome as Doc Holliday in WE. Waterworld quickly became a punchline. "Here we go, let's really get 'em this time!" The story is ridiculous. Plot holes abundant. I just love that everyone in this weird world of water, everyone speaks English! But I guess that. makes sense, because everyone in the movie is white, and clearly the only survivors of this water apocalypse are from whatever remained of the United States! Cool! Except for Frenchy the balloon man! The Exxon Valdez was a beautiful 90's touch. Chef's kiss. The movie is not nearly as bad as the press it received at the time... Hell, Independence Day came out around the same time, and it's equally ludicrous, but not universally reviled the way WW is. And while certainly not a great movie, or even necessarily a good movie, it's fun, it's silly, and it's respectable. I can't even imagine working on a movie with this kind of scope, vision and logistical challenges. Also, The Postman doesn't suck either. The book is ****ing great, and the movie is not great, but it's very watchable. |
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01-20-2022, 09:21 PM | #100 |
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I love how they are under water over Denver one day and end up at Everest soon after.
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01-20-2022, 09:46 PM | #101 |
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None of the Earps were particularly noble, and Wyatt wasn't particularly pleasant. Also, Doc and Wyatt weren't nearly as close as Tombstone would lead one to believe. They actually had a big falling not long after the events depicted in the films, parted ways and never saw each other again. The scene in Tombstone where Wyatt visits Doc at the sanatorium is pure Hollywood horseshit. Wyatt Earp lived long enough, and spent enough time in Hollywood during the movie industry's infancy, to help create the fictionalized heroic legend that has been accepted as fact for a century. Another interesting fact about Earp - he befriended a young actor named Marion Morrison, who adopted Earp's mannerisms and speech patterns throughout his long career. Morrison was better known by his professional name, John Wayne. |
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01-20-2022, 11:03 PM | #104 | |
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But you're far more of a JW fan than I am, so I'll take your word for it. Sure would be cool if it was true, though. |
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