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04-07-2022, 06:04 PM | #61 | |
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04-08-2022, 07:20 AM | #62 |
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Quasi-Unpopular Opinion: J Williams is the ONLY target worth trading up multiple picks for in this draft.
I know, I know, the DL, but this draft doesn't have a lot of world-beaters on DL and is actually pretty deep at second-tier EDGE talent. D Wyatt? Sure, I like him too but his sack stats don't line up with CPs vision of him. Johnson or Karliftas, I like them just fine as well, but in truth neither has much hype from national pundits and I don't see much from either that suggests they'll be the next Jared Allen for us. Where's the young N Suh or J Clowney that has ESPN draft heads going crazy for that we'd be getting with our package of picks? There's plenty of talent in the second round with Ojabo, Ebiketie, Enagbare, Bonito, etc... that could pan out to be just as impactful pass rushers. Meanwhile, Williams has seemingly separated himself from the pack as a clear top-tier talent and is being compared to Devonta, Waddle, and even Tyreek regularly despite being injured. If we want a guaranteed high-impact player in the 1st my money's on trading up for J Williams. |
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04-08-2022, 07:24 AM | #63 |
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This is gonna shock you guys to your core.
I don't wanna trade up. Don't chase high impact players. Just stock the team with good players. Develop them into that type of guy if you can. |
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04-08-2022, 07:33 AM | #64 | |
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04-08-2022, 09:01 AM | #65 |
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04-08-2022, 09:05 AM | #66 |
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04-08-2022, 09:11 AM | #68 | |
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But if we want high impact players, we're gonna have to develop them. Not trade up picks for them. It's the curse of having a HOF coach and QB in their primes. We ain't likely picking high enough to get blue collar guys. So the scouting dept has to be on their shit. |
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04-08-2022, 09:12 AM | #69 |
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04-08-2022, 09:16 AM | #71 |
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Somebody want to break down the DE's based on style of play for a novice like myself? I've read a lot of you smarter draft/scouting guys comment on certain players, ie. how two different ends drafted in a certain mock are basically talented in the same way or both profile with the same style and would be redundant.
I've never done mock drafts before, but in this offseason boredom with an abundance of picks I've probably done 10 a day on the different sites. That being said, I'm not smart enough to know that drafting Cam Thomas and Karlaftis both is basically getting the same type of guy (not sure if this is 100% accurate). Anybody care to group the type of DE's together for a rookie mock drafter? |
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04-08-2022, 09:17 AM | #72 |
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04-08-2022, 09:35 AM | #73 |
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Who would you trade up for? I mean damn Johnson is going too 10 and Karlaftis is being mocked in mid teens. Who else is there unless it’s a WR?
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04-08-2022, 11:29 AM | #74 |
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I agree that he's rated to go in the top 15-20 of this draft and that he's a very solid DE, but I've yet to hear a lot of real buzz about him. What super-elite trait does he possess? Are we getting a Bosa-type game changer? He's just not as exciting of a prospect as adding J Williams who has the potential to hit a home run with any play.
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04-08-2022, 11:40 AM | #75 | |
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There's about 20 WRs that are a homerun threat on any play in this draft. What makes Williams so special in that regard? Surely there's a lot more to his game than that one item? That's where I am with Johnson, he's pretty good at everything and just getting started (much like Williams last year was his first as a starter and the dude put up 70 tackles, 18 tfl, and 12 sacks). |
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