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Ty Cobb is second now
Baseball Integrates Leaderboards
Major League Baseball officially updated its statistics leaderboard yesterday to include 2,300 qualifying men who played in the Negro Leagues between 1920 and 1948. The integration incorporates findings from a three-year research process initiated after MLB first recognized the Negro Leagues as major leagues in December 2020. The update reshapes long-standing leaderboards, with legendary power hitter and Hall of Fame catcher Josh Gibson now recognized as the all-time leader in career batting average with a .372 mark, passing prior leader, Ty Cobb. Lifetime numbers from MLB players reflecting their time in the Negro Leagues were also recognized, including those of Jackie Robinson, Willie Mays, and Satchel Paige. See a rundown of leaderboard changes here. https://www.mlb.com/news/stats-leade...ro-leagues-mlb Tacit bans in the major leagues forced Black players to create their own leagues in the first half of the 20th century. Jackie Robinson broke the sport's racial barrier when he made his debut with the Brooklyn Dodgers in 1947 |
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SNAP THE ****ING BALL!!!
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Love it. It's about time.
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Ty Cobb was supposed to be a real jerk anyway, so too bad so sad.
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SNAP THE ****ING BALL!!!
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The obvious racial injustices aside, it's called the major leagues and for a long time there was a third one. It deserves to be recognized. The stats are already muddied by different eras and rules and cheating scandals, etc. Sacrificing a little purity in pursuit of justice and a more truthful telling of the history of the game is the obvious choice.
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I've heard that the Cobb being a world class prick story is overblown and was essentially made up by one vindictive baseball writer.
PragerU (I'm not a huge fan of them) has a pretty good non-political video on it. |
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In a 1952 Sporting News article on the integration of the Texas minor leagues, published before the Athletics, Pirates, Cardinals, Reds, Yankees, Phillies, Tigers, and Red Sox had a black player on their rosters, Cobb stated: “The Negro has the right to compete in sports and who’s to say they have not?” He later said, toward the end of his life: “The only player I would pay to see is Willie Mays.” |
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Baseball Fever has a great Ty Cobb thread where they strip away the lies. There are several good books as well. I love baseball but so much of its common knowledge is fable and distorted history. Unfortunately, the public doesn't know and isn't interested in knowledge. Even this thread has people repeating exaggerations. |
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Apparently, he was always 2cnd. It's just documented that way now.
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I used to be a major purist for Major League Baseball stats, and these used to be sacred to me as a kid.
Then the Steroid Era happened, and the Homerun records became completely unattainable. Pitching is so different now that those old time records are also unattainable. Winning 20 games is somewhat rare anymore. Imagine doing that 25 straight seasons and still be 11 wins away from Cy Young’s record. So really, what do the records in baseball mean if no one can break them? Given that, I don’t have an issue with this. |
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Buddy Christ is a Chiefs fan
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