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Old 06-06-2019, 09:10 AM  
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I know this topic comes up every now and then....
...but after last year's offensive performance and the weapons we have on this team, should we revisit the idea of not punting, like, ever?

Mahomes averaged 8.8 yards per attempt.

Mahomes completed 66% of his passes.

The Chiefs converted 12 of 15 (80%) fourth down attempts last year.

It would seem that, more often than not, the Chiefs would sustain drives that would not only keep our defense fresh, but at the same time, wear down opposing offenses.

Even if the offense fails to convert and the other team gets the ball with good field position and scores, we know that Mahomes can overcome pretty much any deficit.

It would be a total moneyball move that could reshape the league.

http://awealthofcommonsense.com/2016...o-never-punts/
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:16 AM   #2
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what about when we are up by 35? Do you still not punt?
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:20 AM   #3
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I think they may bring in some young guys to challenge Colquitt. He makes a shit ton of money for a guy who sometimes is called on to punt only once or twice a game.
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:21 AM   #4
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what about when we are up by 35? Do you still not punt?
No. You bring in Henne and other 2nd stringers if you are trying to save the starters from injury.
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:25 AM   #5
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I remember when the Rams went without a kicker for a stretch in the early 2000s...
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:32 AM   #6
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I don't expect the offense to put up numbers like last year. Most was a by-product of having to go blow for blow with the other team because they couldn't get a defensive stop.
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:33 AM   #7
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I also think you should rethink kickoffs given the new rules. If you can find a rugby player who is good with ball placement on dropkicks, just have them kick it high and rather short creating a jump ball scenario similar to a pass. If you kick to the 30-35 yard line and have enough height, your coverage team can run under it and make a play on the ball. If you don't recover, from that point, you've only given up 5-10 yards compared to a touchback. Recover the ball 20% of the time, and it is totally worth it.
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Old 06-06-2019, 09:38 AM   #8
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If I remember correctly some years ago a statistician said that NFL teams would benefit from not punting as long as they were beyond their own 30 yard line or something like that.
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Old 06-06-2019, 10:21 AM   #9
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If I remember correctly some years ago a statistician said that NFL teams would benefit from not punting as long as they were beyond their own 30 yard line or something like that.
While it might be true over the entire league for many seasons, there are too many situations where the risk is higher than is acceptable for failing on this particular attempt.

Punting when it's late in the 4th and you're ahead by 1 and on your own 31 yard line might not meet some statistician's analysis, but failing in that situation almost always loses the game. There are plenty of situations where failure reduces your chance of winning by much more than punting would reduce it.

None of this will ever happen IMO, because these are humans with jobs they don't want to lose, and aligning yourself with the long-standing conventions of what is acceptable risk in key situations is not going to get anybody fired.
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:09 AM   #10
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What if it’s like 4th and 5 on your own 10 yard line. Do you not punt?
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:15 AM   #11
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What if it’s like 4th and 5 on your own 10 yard line. Do you not punt?
The data says absolutely not. If you fail to convert, the opposing team has a 92% chance of scoring a touchdown; if you punt from that distance, however, the opposing team still has a 77% chance of scoring a touchdown. You haven't significantly lowered your risk of the other team scoring while you've completely eliminated any chance of reward for converting a fourth down.
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:18 AM   #12
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I’m surprised there aren’t more kickers who can punt or punters who can kick fieldgoals/kickoffs

Would free up a roster spot
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:26 AM   #13
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Andy wants PMII's completion rate in 70% area. which could "regress" his yard per attempt.

If that's the only change then whoopty ****in do when it comes to those hyperbolic quantitative statistic assholes.
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:27 AM   #14
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I don't expect the offense to put up numbers like last year. Most was a by-product of having to go blow for blow with the other team because they couldn't get a defensive stop.
Agree. If the Chiefs defense can manage a stop every now an then, hell, just play middle of the road, they have a good shot at going the distance. They almost made it last year if that pea brain Ford didn't line up off sides.
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Old 06-06-2019, 11:51 AM   #15
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Every team should punt way less, but especially this team.
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