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Old 09-28-2022, 10:44 AM  
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Just some numbers from the Colts game that might be a little surprising:

WR Separation
League Average 2.91 yards
Watson: 3.78 yards
JuJu: 3.28 yards
MVS: 3.02 yards

Pass Rush Separation from QB
League Average 4.53 yards
Jones: 4.65
Clark: 4.84
Karlaftis: 5.63

Colts
Ngakoue: 2.96
Paye: 4.26

And finally Mahomes:
0 for 3 on passes over 20 yards
3 of 8 on all passes between 10 and 20 yards
2 of 8 on all passes in the middle of the field beyond the LOS.
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Old 09-28-2022, 10:49 AM   #2
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Looks to me like the stats suggest the same thing my eyes told me after watching the All 22...the WR's weren't nearly as bad as the offensive line, specifically Brown. Ngakoue's number isn't surprising at all.
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Old 09-28-2022, 10:51 AM   #3
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Yeesh.

Ngakoue really ate Brown's lunch, man. I keep hoping I'll find some silver lining in the performance and there just isn't one.

Yannick is a good player but there has to be something physically wrong with Brown. Even when he had his struggles early last year, he wasn't getting torched like that. Myles Garrett is a much better player than Ngakoue and Brown was clearly getting adjusted last season and even then he wasn't as bad as he was against Indy.

I think his mechanics/timing were way off but I wonder if an injury didn't force that. It just makes so little sense for someone to be leaning like he was the whole game when that's just not a tendency he's demonstrated in the past.

That's pretty ****ing brutal.
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Old 09-28-2022, 10:56 AM   #4
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I gave a quick look at the other weeks and Hardman and Gray are not getting open much at all in any game.
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Old 09-28-2022, 11:01 AM   #5
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I gave a quick look at the other weeks and Hardman and Gray are not getting open much at all in any game.
I don't recall seeing any plays where either of them were wide open.

Honestly, the guy that showed up most on the All 22, other than CEH being open a lot and Mahomes not taking the check down, was MVS. He was open quite a bit and Mahomes either made a bad throw or just didn't look his way.
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Old 09-28-2022, 05:46 PM   #6
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Is Hardman running bad routes or just getting stopped at the line of scrimmage before he can get into his route?

There is something terribly wrong for a guy with his speed to NEVER be open
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Old 09-28-2022, 05:52 PM   #8
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Yeesh.

Ngakoue really ate Brown's lunch, man. I keep hoping I'll find some silver lining in the performance and there just isn't one.

Yannick is a good player but there has to be something physically wrong with Brown. Even when he had his struggles early last year, he wasn't getting torched like that. Myles Garrett is a much better player than Ngakoue and Brown was clearly getting adjusted last season and even then he wasn't as bad as he was against Indy.

I think his mechanics/timing were way off but I wonder if an injury didn't force that. It just makes so little sense for someone to be leaning like he was the whole game when that's just not a tendency he's demonstrated in the past.

That's pretty ****ing brutal.
Seth Keysor said on the radio today that he’s convinced both OBJ and Smith are hurt worse than has been reported. Basically, both are just all upper body right now. Hardly any push from their legs.

Imagine trying to push someone without moving your legs.
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Old 09-28-2022, 05:53 PM   #9
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Seth Keysor said on the radio today that he’s convinced both OBJ and Smith are hurt worse than has been reported. Basically, both are just all upper body right now. Hardly any push from their legs.

Imagine trying to push someone without moving your legs.
If they’re truly hurt that bad, why are they playing? They’re going to get Mahomes killed.
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If they’re truly hurt that bad, why are they playing? They’re going to get Mahomes killed.
I really don’t understand forcing Smith out there. Allegretti can fill in competently.

I know our tackle depth is much scarier though.
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Old 09-28-2022, 05:57 PM   #11
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I really don’t understand forcing Smith out there. Allegretti can fill in competently.

I know our tackle depth is much scarier though.
Right.
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I really don’t understand forcing Smith out there. Allegretti can fill in competently.

I know our tackle depth is much scarier though.
Christian was a competent pass blocker last season, Brown was not a competent pass blocker last week. It seems like an easy choice, but WTF do I know.
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Old 09-28-2022, 06:58 PM   #13
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Seen enough of Hardman. He just doesn't have it.
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Old 09-28-2022, 07:00 PM   #14
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Brady is the luckiest ****er ever to play. Team can't score for shit but his defense won't let him lose. Same shit his whole career. Defense has saved his sorry ass more times that he saved them.
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That's interesting. WR numbers are better than I expected watching the game and pass rush numbers are worse than I expected.
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