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Coogs · 01-31-2024, 06:14 AM

I found some Senior Bowl reports, so I thought I would post them.

From Great Blue North Draft Report

With the first day of practice at this year’s Senior Bowl in Mobile, here is a rundown of some of our observations from this afternoon’s workout, although we note that the players were only in shells and there was no tackling per se.

To put it simply, none of the QBs in today’s afternoon session which included Joe Milton of Tennessee, South Carolina’s Spencer Rattler, Michael Pratt of Tulane and South Alabama’s Carter Bradley threw the ball with any kind of authority.

The star of the day, at least in the afternoon session may have been WR Ladd McConkey of Georgia; he’s not all that big or fast, but displayed a dizzying of array of moves that left more than one cover guy wondering exactly where he’d gone. Don’t blink! To boot, McConkey also made at least one acrobatic diving catch to add to his resume. At the same time, Jamari Thrash of Louisville and McConkey’s Georgia teammate Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint got free for a number of receptions in the team drills. On the other hand, scouts had to be a little disappointed with what they saw from Johnny Wilson of Florida State and South Carolina’s Xavier Legette. Both are big receivers who made a couple of contested catches, but they really struggled to get much separation in the open field, while neither showed much of an extra gear when the ball was in the air.

If the American team (which practised in the afternoon) have an edge in Mobile one would figure its the offensive line which includes among others OTs Tyler Guyton and Patrick Paul. However, while both had their moments Tuesday afternoon, we’re not sure either was all that consistently dominant. Guyton, a potential top 15 candidate for 2024, for example, could really lock and generally kept his feet moving in pass protection, but lunged at a couple of rushers and pretty much whiffed completely. For his part, Paul consistently gave up too much penetration and seemed to have some issues planting and redirecting when challenged with counter moves. In fact, a pretty good case can be made the Christian Jones of Texas may actually have been the best OT on the day, while Missouri’s Javon Foster wasn’t all that far behind. A case could also be made that American team OGs were really good as a group as none of Brandon Colemen of TCU, Christian Haynes of UConn, Layden Robinson of Texas A&M and Miami’s Javion Cohen gave up much of anything.
On the other hand, we’re still waiting for someone on the American defensive line to really step. Alabama’s Chris Braswell did flash while rushing the passer on a couple of plays, while Florida State DT Braden Fiske stayed low and aggressive and was also able to make a couple of plays in the backfield.

January 30, 2024 - 1:36 pm

Preliminary observations from AM Senior Bowl practice … With the players warming up for this afternoon’s Senior Bowl practice, here are a couple or three or more preliminary observations from this morning’s workout, although we note that the players were only in shells and there was no tackling per se.

It didn’t appear as if Michael Penix threw the ball all that well on the day. Nothing egregous, but the precision just wasn’t there as a number of his passes were off-target.

It was also a somewhat disappointing day for UCLA DE Laiatu Latu, arguably the highest rated player in Mobile this week. He was buried by Oregon State’s Taliese Fuaga early in the OL-DL one-on-one drills and didn’t show much in the team portion, although he did beat BYU’s Kingsley Saumataia on a nice inside spin move to wrap up the day. And that may have been the issue with Latu who up until then had really only tried to win with outside speed. It was also a quiet day for Oregon’s Brandon Dorlus, who lined up both inside and out, but didn’t make much of a splash at either, On the whole though it was a pretty good day for the defensive linemen with Marshawn Kneeland of Western Michigan, Baylor’s Gabe Hall, and Austin Booker also showing some pretty good quickness getting into the backfield.

Speaking of Fuaga, on first blush he appeared to be the best offensive lineman in the morning session. He’s a big guy, but he plays low, gets good arm extension and has very quiet feet. Also on first blush it appeared that Oregon C/G and Illinois OG Isaiah Adams, the only Canadian on this year’s Senior Bowl roster, had solid mornings. On the other hand, Arizona’s Jordan Morgan had a bit of an up-and-down practice. He washed out DT Michael Hall, who otherwise was pretty solid, at least defending the run, but struggled at times especially reacting to counter moves. Utah OG Sataoa Laumea also had a tough time sustaining against quicker interior defenders.

The Senior Bowl is rarely a particularly good venue for RBs to show their stuff, but at least in today’s practice in shells, Marshall’s Rasheen Ali and USC’s Marshawn Lloyd both showed off some nice speed and quickness to the hole, while Lloyd also made a couple of nice catches downfield in one-on-one wrap-up contest working against Notre Dame LB JD Bertrand. Meanwhile, New Hampshire’s Dylan Laube, one of the few FCS players in Mobile this week, did not look at all out of place, although he didn’t seem to get as many touches as the other backs.
Nice day for Michigan WR Roman Wilson who showed some speed and quickness and caught the ball well, while it was an up-and-down day for North Carolina’s Tez Walker, who clearly has a second gear, but was a little slow off the snap and not that clean in his cuts.

Toledo CB Quinyon Mitchell, one of the big risers in the 2024 draft class, did nothing to slow that mo with some sticky coverage that resulted in a couple of PBUs. Meanwhile, Cam Hart of Notre Dame had a nice pick when he undercut an underneath route, but did appear to have some problems staying with receivers on deeper routes.

https://gbnreport.com/

JohnnyHammersticks · 02-03-2024, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Is Ladd McConkey going to be any good or are these guys being paid to blow him like they have all week?

Looks way better than I expected, that’s for sure. Quick as a cat, runs really nice routes.

JohnnyHammersticks · 02-03-2024, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I didn't get to watch the game. Heard Rattler played well and got MVP. Know nothing else right now. Any ways to watch a replay?

Rattler had the best week of any QB in my opinion. Another guy I didn’t expect much from, but he looked really good.

kccrow · 02-03-2024, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Is Ladd McConkey going to be any good or are these guys being paid to blow him like they have all week?

He looks like a traditional Belichick slot WR to me... slow as **** in a straight line but super quick in and out of breaks to get separation. I don't see him making 1/10th of the "big plays" he made at Georgia but he'll be a guy you want when it's time to paper-cut teams to death.

I just don't put much of a high value on that type of player in the draft. I think he's a guy you pick up in the 4th or so and be happy as a lark. These rankings of him in the 2nd have me saying no ****ing thank you. If I'm taking a WR in the 1st or 2nd, it's with the goal they can play outside. You can always find slots later on.

Coogs · 02-04-2024, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

I didn't get to watch the game. Heard Rattler played well and got MVP. Know nothing else right now. Any ways to watch a replay?

I just looked up the schedule for NFL Network, and it is not on again before February 13th anyway. They do have some TBA slots starting on the 13th though. So it could be a while kccrow.

Abba-Dabba · 02-04-2024, 10:37 AM

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kccrow · 02-04-2024, 11:07 AM

Thanks Abba-Dabba. Only had time to watch the first series but I seen all I needed from Bailey there. He's been my guy, reminds me of Aaron Jones coming out all those years ago. Don't know if Veach will take him as he tends to go for bigger backs but he's the guy I'd take. He's gonna be a nice player I think. Good speed and vision.

Coogs · 02-04-2024, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

Thanks Abba-Dabba. Only had time to watch the first series but I seen all I needed from Bailey there. He's been my guy, reminds me of Aaron Jones coming out all those years ago. Don't know if Veach will take him as he tends to go for bigger backs but he's the guy I'd take. He's gonna be a nice player I think. Good speed and vision.

Bradley was impressive there. I didn't get to see the game yesterday either.

01-31-2024, 06:14 AM
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas	Senior Bowl I found some Senior Bowl reports, so I thought I would post them. From Great Blue North Draft Report With the first day of practice at this year’s Senior Bowl in Mobile, here is a rundown of some of our observations from this afternoon’s workout, although we note that the players were only in shells and there was no tackling per se. To put it simply, none of the QBs in today’s afternoon session which included Joe Milton of Tennessee, South Carolina’s Spencer Rattler, Michael Pratt of Tulane and South Alabama’s Carter Bradley threw the ball with any kind of authority. The star of the day, at least in the afternoon session may have been WR Ladd McConkey of Georgia; he’s not all that big or fast, but displayed a dizzying of array of moves that left more than one cover guy wondering exactly where he’d gone. Don’t blink! To boot, McConkey also made at least one acrobatic diving catch to add to his resume. At the same time, Jamari Thrash of Louisville and McConkey’s Georgia teammate Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint got free for a number of receptions in the team drills. On the other hand, scouts had to be a little disappointed with what they saw from Johnny Wilson of Florida State and South Carolina’s Xavier Legette. Both are big receivers who made a couple of contested catches, but they really struggled to get much separation in the open field, while neither showed much of an extra gear when the ball was in the air. If the American team (which practised in the afternoon) have an edge in Mobile one would figure its the offensive line which includes among others OTs Tyler Guyton and Patrick Paul. However, while both had their moments Tuesday afternoon, we’re not sure either was all that consistently dominant. Guyton, a potential top 15 candidate for 2024, for example, could really lock and generally kept his feet moving in pass protection, but lunged at a couple of rushers and pretty much whiffed completely. For his part, Paul consistently gave up too much penetration and seemed to have some issues planting and redirecting when challenged with counter moves. In fact, a pretty good case can be made the Christian Jones of Texas may actually have been the best OT on the day, while Missouri’s Javon Foster wasn’t all that far behind. A case could also be made that American team OGs were really good as a group as none of Brandon Colemen of TCU, Christian Haynes of UConn, Layden Robinson of Texas A&M and Miami’s Javion Cohen gave up much of anything. On the other hand, we’re still waiting for someone on the American defensive line to really step. Alabama’s Chris Braswell did flash while rushing the passer on a couple of plays, while Florida State DT Braden Fiske stayed low and aggressive and was also able to make a couple of plays in the backfield. January 30, 2024 - 1:36 pm Preliminary observations from AM Senior Bowl practice … With the players warming up for this afternoon’s Senior Bowl practice, here are a couple or three or more preliminary observations from this morning’s workout, although we note that the players were only in shells and there was no tackling per se. It didn’t appear as if Michael Penix threw the ball all that well on the day. Nothing egregous, but the precision just wasn’t there as a number of his passes were off-target. It was also a somewhat disappointing day for UCLA DE Laiatu Latu, arguably the highest rated player in Mobile this week. He was buried by Oregon State’s Taliese Fuaga early in the OL-DL one-on-one drills and didn’t show much in the team portion, although he did beat BYU’s Kingsley Saumataia on a nice inside spin move to wrap up the day. And that may have been the issue with Latu who up until then had really only tried to win with outside speed. It was also a quiet day for Oregon’s Brandon Dorlus, who lined up both inside and out, but didn’t make much of a splash at either, On the whole though it was a pretty good day for the defensive linemen with Marshawn Kneeland of Western Michigan, Baylor’s Gabe Hall, and Austin Booker also showing some pretty good quickness getting into the backfield. Speaking of Fuaga, on first blush he appeared to be the best offensive lineman in the morning session. He’s a big guy, but he plays low, gets good arm extension and has very quiet feet. Also on first blush it appeared that Oregon C/G and Illinois OG Isaiah Adams, the only Canadian on this year’s Senior Bowl roster, had solid mornings. On the other hand, Arizona’s Jordan Morgan had a bit of an up-and-down practice. He washed out DT Michael Hall, who otherwise was pretty solid, at least defending the run, but struggled at times especially reacting to counter moves. Utah OG Sataoa Laumea also had a tough time sustaining against quicker interior defenders. The Senior Bowl is rarely a particularly good venue for RBs to show their stuff, but at least in today’s practice in shells, Marshall’s Rasheen Ali and USC’s Marshawn Lloyd both showed off some nice speed and quickness to the hole, while Lloyd also made a couple of nice catches downfield in one-on-one wrap-up contest working against Notre Dame LB JD Bertrand. Meanwhile, New Hampshire’s Dylan Laube, one of the few FCS players in Mobile this week, did not look at all out of place, although he didn’t seem to get as many touches as the other backs. Nice day for Michigan WR Roman Wilson who showed some speed and quickness and caught the ball well, while it was an up-and-down day for North Carolina’s Tez Walker, who clearly has a second gear, but was a little slow off the snap and not that clean in his cuts. Toledo CB Quinyon Mitchell, one of the big risers in the 2024 draft class, did nothing to slow that mo with some sticky coverage that resulted in a couple of PBUs. Meanwhile, Cam Hart of Notre Dame had a nice pick when he undercut an underneath route, but did appear to have some problems staying with receivers on deeper routes. https://gbnreport.com/ Last edited by Coogs; 02-01-2024 at 06:10 AM..
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