***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Beats dead time, I guess.

Yeah no doubt.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Beats dead time, I guess.

I mean you sound pretty far along, did you ever ask to try hydoxychloroquine? Sounds like you are beating it the old fashioned way. Ill keep you in my prayors

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Wait...all I need to do for a bottle of pappy's is suffer through an infectious disease?

Christ - that's WAY easier than any other attempts I've made at getting one.

Otwp is nice to me and is sick

You on the other hand always talk down to me. So if you get sick I’ll send you some Canadian mist and a **** off letter

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Whatever I have is the oddest damn virus ever.

Today is day 11, still zero energy, tightness in my chest, cough has finally died down, but have a massive headache daily and my temperature changes 3* +/- over the course of 30-45 minutes. Was 102.5 at 3:30 and down to 99.1 now.

Temp has been as low as 96.6. Weird.

Wife is starting to get nervous and suggesting a trip to the hospital is in order, but being told by doc there really isn't anything they'll do for me there I'm not already doing at home - and much, much cheaper at home.

I'm so done with this shit.

You're almost there dude.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Wait...all I need to do for a bottle of pappy's is suffer through an infectious disease?

Christ - that's WAY easier than any other attempts I've made at getting one.

Wait your turn, boss.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by O.city

Otwp is nice to me and is sick

You on the other hand always talk down to me. So if you get sick I’ll send you some Canadian mist and a **** off letter

First time I've laughed in two weeks and goddamn it hurt.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Belton doing Belton things never gets old

Explain please

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Otwp is nice to me and is sick

You on the other hand always talk down to me. So if you get sick I’ll send you some Canadian mist and a **** off letter

So the **** off letter is lipstick on the pig????

[OnTheWarpath15]

Thanks for the thoughts and well wishes, fellas. They are much appreciated.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Hang in there man. One day at a time. Do you have an inhaler or a nebulizer machine for Albuterol?

Do not use a nebulizer if you have an alternative. It is an aerosol generating procedure, and makes you more infectious for the people around you.

Do what you have to, but keep that in mind.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Inhaler, yes. Got it today.

Is it having much affect on the tightness in the chest or shortness of breath for you?

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Do not use a nebulizer if you have an alternative. It is an aerosol generating procedure, and makes you more infectious for the people around you.

Do what you have to, but keep that in mind.

Why do you say that?

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Why do you say that?

Because it's true?

I'm not sure what you are asking.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Is it having much affect on the tightness in the chest or shortness of breath for you?

If anything, it makes it hurt a bit more. Waiting on a call back from my doc.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Because it's true?

I'm not sure what you are asking.

I am asking how you know this and what about using a Nebulizer, that uses Albuterol sulfate which comes from salt and is also in the rescue inhaler, makes a person more contagious.