***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

If places start opening and shit doesn't go off the rails, people will slowly get back to normal.

I think there will be segment of the population that won't go back to "normal" due to irrational fear. But with that said, I think there should be specific guidelines in place for the elderly and those with underlying conditions so that they're protected and safe.

The rest of us should be allowed resume working and playing while taking precautions in order to prevent or minimize the risk of contracting and spreading C-19.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Donger

Okay.

1. At least 16 meatpacking plants are currently closed

As of April 29, at least 19 U.S. meatpacking plants and five processed food plants have closed due to a shortage of workers. An estimated 5,300 plant workers across the nation have been confirmed to be ill with the novel coronavirus. Many thousands more have stopped going to work, either because they are required to quarantine at home in the face of possible exposure to the virus or simply because they refuse to labor under what many say were unsafe working conditions.

We have a higher rate of infection than New York and the plants are still running here.

They are supposedly at a reduced capacity, though. There are only so many 90 hour weeks a human can handle.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Donger

Why would we have food shortages?

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by BWillie

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by O.city

If places start opening and shit doesn't go off the rails, people will slowly get back to normal.

Things are going to be alright until the fall, I would imagine. But people are going to keep dying. We just won't likely see as of of rate of infections until then, though.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BWillie

It seems like meat plants are closing because of COVID-19 infections, even with mitigation. So, where's the logic that we'll have food shortages if we don't open up?

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Mecca

BWillie ate to many cheeze its while playing golden tee so you can't buy anymore ok?

I'm not too worried about it.

Golfnado is my golden tee name. Come challenge me to Golden Tee Mobile. I give you 8 strokes per nine. Good luck.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Donger

It seems like meat plants are closing because of COVID-19 infections, even with mitigation. So, where's the logic that we'll have food shortages if we don't open up?

You can always eat ramen for years if you have to. I can grow vegetables in my yard if I was so inclined. But I'm not so inclined. So I eat things that people murder for me.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Donger

It seems like meat plants are closing because of COVID-19 infections, even with mitigation. So, where's the logic that we'll have food shortages if we don't open up?

Weird I bet there are about 34 million people looking for a job right about now.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BWillie

You can always eat ramen for years if you have to. I can grow vegetables in my yard if I was so inclined. But I'm not so inclined. So I eat things that people murder for me.

That doesn't address the logic, or lack thereof.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Weird I bet there are about 34 million people looking for a job right about now.

There's nothing weird about it.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Donger

There's nothing weird about it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN22N0IN

https://www.provisioneronline.com/20...try-processors

Donger 19 plants are not the problem BTW

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN22N0IN

I don't know why you posted that. I doubt you do, either.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by BWillie

I'm not too worried about it.

Golfnado is my golden tee name. Come challenge me to Golden Tee Mobile. I give you 8 strokes per nine. Good luck.

8 strokes in 9 minutes, these seems like an odd porn strategy...

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Donger

I don't know why you posted that. I doubt you do, either.

/Agenda

I gave you the reasons for food shortages you felt the need to argue it. I don't ****ing care about your opinion on it. Because this is what the FARMERS/RANCHERS are telling us.