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Old 03-23-2024, 10:49 AM   #2
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Yup.

If this was the best he could do, he could've done it 3 weeks ago.

This is an L. And a fairly bad one at that.

He overplayed his hand and then blinked.
I couldn't disagree more. Veech had no leverage unless he was willing to play Sneed on the tag and that only works if they rework a bunch of other guys to get more cap room to address other needs.

It would have set off a domino effect.

Sneeds contract demands also clearly played a roll in all of this.

I mean yea it sucks we didn't get more but the writing on the wall has been that is going to be a 3rd rounder for a long while now. It sucks but really there weren't many other options unless you want to scrap other plans to play the guy on the tag which they clearly didn't want to do.

So we drafted him in the 4th, got 4 great years out of him and traded him for a 3rd and $20MM in cap space.

And Ten is going to be dogshit next year so that 3rd may be fairly high.
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Old 03-23-2024, 10:54 AM   #3
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I couldn't disagree more. Veech had no leverage unless he was willing to play Sneed on the tag and that only works if they rework a bunch of other guys to get more cap room to address other needs.

It would have set off a domino effect.

Sneeds contract demands also clearly played a roll in all of this.

I mean yea it sucks we didn't get more but the writing on the wall has been that is going to be a 3rd rounder for a long while now. It sucks but really there weren't many other options unless you want to scrap other plans to play the guy on the tag which they clearly didn't want to do.

So we drafted him in the 4th, got 4 great years out of him and traded him for a 3rd and $20MM in cap space.

And Ten is going to be dogshit next year so that 3rd may be fairly high.
I was actually thinking this about the Titans. Probably they'll be better, certainly with Sneed, so it's a bummer it's not this year when we could've used it in a really good WR/OT class...but I still think they'll be terrible and that pick will be at a decent point in the round in 2025.
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Old 03-23-2024, 11:37 AM   #4
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I couldn't disagree more. Veech had no leverage unless he was willing to play Sneed on the tag and that only works if they rework a bunch of other guys to get more cap room to address other needs.

It would have set off a domino effect.
just last season tying up that cap room on Jones tag handcuffed us. Maybe Veach didn’t want to repeat that?
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Old 03-22-2024, 09:04 PM   #5
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Yikes…I knew it would be a low ball deal, but that seems REALLY bad. Oh well, let’s take that money and start filling holes
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Old 03-22-2024, 09:04 PM   #6
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Veach doesn’t make bad trades this will work itself out
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Old 03-22-2024, 09:04 PM   #7
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Wow.

That's just an awful return.

****ing hell. I'd have just rescinded the tag and hoped he signed in the NFC just to do the guy a solid before I accepted that deal. Thats offensively horrible.
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Old 03-22-2024, 09:10 PM   #8
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Wow.

That's just an awful return.

****ing hell. I'd have just rescinded the tag and hoped he signed in the NFC just to do the guy a solid before I accepted that deal. Thats offensively horrible.
Rescinding the tag is dirty pool, that's a good way to get a bad rep with players...hey we'll hold you when teams are paying big dollars then release you after.
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Old 03-22-2024, 09:10 PM   #9
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Wow.

That's just an awful return.

****ing hell. I'd have just rescinded the tag and hoped he signed in the NFC just to do the guy a solid before I accepted that deal. Thats offensively horrible.
His knee has been a problem since July. Swelling and aggravation. On the injury report throughout the year but played through it.

I think his knee really dropped his value. Teams didn’t want to pay him a lot and give up high assets for that risk
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Old 03-22-2024, 09:06 PM   #10
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Old 03-22-2024, 09:07 PM   #12
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Another example of Veach sucking at big name trades. He must've been desperate to unload the tag number, probably to sign a free agent LT.
He got a great return for Tyreek
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Old 03-22-2024, 09:09 PM   #13
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He got a great return for Tyreek
Not from the initial Jets offer which he had agreed to. More like luck that Miami jumped in and overpaid.
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Not from the initial Jets offer which he had agreed to. More like luck that Miami jumped in and overpaid.
If only you could be our GM. Bet we'd have won at least 3 SBs in the last 5 years.

I bet you can throw a football over those mountains.
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Not sure about “great talent”, but some of the remaining free agents…
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