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Old 04-21-2020, 01:50 PM  
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Old 04-21-2020, 04:15 PM   #16
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I talked about kick returner Deonte Harris out of tiny Assumption who broke all the college return records, how did he do in the NFL.....Pro bowl.

Tariq Cohen out of NCA&T having no problems in the NFL.

How is Khali Mack out of Buffalo doing? What school did SB QB Jimmy G go to?

It's never been...OH MY GOD WOW....for small school studs, most have no problems at all once in the NFL.

Carson Wentz, Kurt Warner, Tony Romo out of where?
You know the beautiful thing about the Deonte Harris example? He was an UDFA, just as I said that if Earnest Edwards is going to make it, that's likely the route he is going to have to go. NFL teams don't want to spend draft capital on a player who they are unsure can play against top competition. I understand that you can come from a smaller school and make it to the NFL, I have never disputed that.

A few of your examples don't jive though- massively different than Edwards:

Khalil Mack- 1st round talent and grade predraft
Carson Wentz- Considered either #1 or #2 QB in the draft with Jared Goff

Tariq Cohen is a fair example- relatively unknown prospect with not much draft buzz who was taken with a decently high pick. I will concede Tariq Cohen.

I have no problem going on the record and saying that I will be surprised if Earnest is drafted any higher than the 7th round- he's a long shot to make it on a NFL team and that's the reality. I don't know the point you're trying to make here- that he should be drafted in the mid-rounds?

UDFA and see if he can hang at rookie camp and/or training camp- that's what Edwards is.
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Old 04-21-2020, 04:39 PM   #17
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You know the beautiful thing about the Deonte Harris example? He was an UDFA, just as I said that if Earnest Edwards is going to make it, that's likely the route he is going to have to go. NFL teams don't want to spend draft capital on a player who they are unsure can play against top competition. I understand that you can come from a smaller school and make it to the NFL, I have never disputed that.

A few of your examples don't jive though- massively different than Edwards:

Khalil Mack- 1st round talent and grade predraft
Carson Wentz- Considered either #1 or #2 QB in the draft with Jared Goff

Tariq Cohen is a fair example- relatively unknown prospect with not much draft buzz who was taken with a decently high pick. I will concede Tariq Cohen.

I have no problem going on the record and saying that I will be surprised if Earnest is drafted any higher than the 7th round- he's a long shot to make it on a NFL team and that's the reality. I don't know the point you're trying to make here- that he should be drafted in the mid-rounds?

UDFA and see if he can hang at rookie camp and/or training camp- that's what Edwards is.

I never said anything about his draft status, I don't see him drafted at all actually. I am talking about his ability as a kick returner, think Devin Hester, Dante Hall.

Running backs walk right in and take off, yep....young legs, let those instincts take over, that will be this guy when somebody brings him in.
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Old 04-21-2020, 06:08 PM   #18
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Old 04-21-2020, 06:18 PM   #19
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No, what about that guy?

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Some great Chiefs were former Maine Black Bears.

Mike DeVito, Jovan Belcher...

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Old 04-21-2020, 07:28 PM   #21
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Hmmmmm?

Top 10 out of schools not in the Power Five/Notre Dame

Hall of Fame ***

No order

QB

Brett Favre SO. Miss***
Steve Young BYU***
Tony Romo Eastern Illinois
Kurt Warner Northern Iowa***
Jmmy G Eastern Illinois
Joe Flacco Delaware
Steve McNair Alcorn
Big Ben Miami Ohio
Phil Smms Morehouse
Terry Bradshaw La Tech***

RB

Walter Payton Jackson St***
Leroy Kelly Morgan St***
Willie Galimore Florida A&M
Christian Okoye Azusa Pacific
Wilbert Montgomery Abilene Christian
Marion Motley Reno***
Joe "Jet" Perry Compton JC***
Calvin Hill Yale
Abner Haynes North Texas St
Mercury Morris West Texas State

WR

Jerry Rice Mississippi Vally State***
Randy Moss Marshall***
Antonio Brown Eastern Micigan
John Stallworth Alabama A&M***
Charlie Joiner Grambling***
Bob Hayes Florida A&M***
Isaac Bruce Memphis
Terrell Owens Chattanooga***
Steve Largent Houston***
Henry Ellard Fresno State
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Hmmmmm?

Top 10 out of schools not in the Power Five/Notre Dame

No order

QB

Brett Favre
Steve Young
Kurt Warner
Tony Romo
Jmmy G
Joe Flacco
Steve McNair
Big Ben
Phil Smms
Terry Bradshaw

RB

Walter Payton
Leroy Kelly
Willie Galimore
Christian Okoye
Wilbert Montgomery
Marion Motley
Joe "Jet" Perry
Calvin Hill
Abner Haynes
Mercury Morris

WR

Jerry Rice
Randy Moss
Antonio Brown
John Stallworth
Charlie Joiner
Bob Hayes
Isaac Bruce
Terrell Owens
Do one of only FCS, Division II, III, or NAIA guys
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I can do the above off the top of my head, what you are talking about would be work.
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Old 04-28-2020, 03:18 PM   #24
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