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Old 03-19-2024, 04:41 PM   #2
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Worthy’s hands scare the hell out of me. Constant focus drops
Worthy is behind


AD Mitchell
Ja'Tavion Sanders

in route running on his own college team.

And those players weigh 40 lbs and 80 lbs more than little Worthy.


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Old 03-19-2024, 04:44 PM   #3
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Worthy is behind


AD Mitchell
Ja'Tavion Sanders

in route running on his own college team.

And those players weigh 40 lbs and 80 lbs more than little Worthy.


This is made up. Show your work.
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Old 03-19-2024, 04:48 PM   #4
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This is made up. Show your work.
It's an opinion based on watching them.


NFL scouts are raving about AD Mitchell's routes.

Sanders is also slick.

If you like Worthy, you have to promote his speed but his route running won't be a + at the next level.
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:13 AM   #5
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It's an opinion based on watching them.


NFL scouts are raving about AD Mitchell's routes.

Sanders is also slick.

If you like Worthy, you have to promote his speed but his route running won't be a + at the next level.
No. I want you to show me clips of Mitchell's amazing route running. And show me why Worthy's route running is no good.

I feel like people are just saying things.
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:20 AM   #6
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No. I want you to show me clips of Mitchell's amazing route running. And show me why Worthy's route running is no good.

I feel like people are just saying things.

Because people are just saying things. Objectively, worthy odd much more ready to produce day one in an nfl offense


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Old 03-26-2024, 09:30 PM   #7
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No. I want you to show me clips of Mitchell's amazing route running. And show me why Worthy's route running is no good.

I feel like people are just saying things.
He has no clue how to determine how good a player is at running routes. I have no clue either, but I'm not pretending that I do. I just look at what people that are more knowledgeable than I am and see what they say.

I have looked at close to 10 different people with popular blogs/websites and there isn't one that says Worthy is a bad route runner. It's actually the complete and total opposite. Everything I've read has said that he is an elite route runner and one of the best in the country.

That idiot has no clue what he is talking about.
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Old 03-19-2024, 05:08 PM   #8
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This is made up. Show your work.
That will never happen.
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Old 03-19-2024, 05:11 PM   #9
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That will never happen.
Modsocks and I had a debate about route running and WR's a few drafts ago.

My recollection was he said it was not important or that there was no way to know who was better than another.

So we made a bet by both picking our sleeper WR after the top guys were gone.


He chose John Metchie.

I chose Khalil Shakir.
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Old 03-19-2024, 08:07 PM   #10
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Modsocks and I had a debate about route running and WR's a few drafts ago.

My recollection was he said it was not important or that there was no way to know who was better than another.

So we made a bet by both picking our sleeper WR after the top guys were gone.


He chose John Metchie.

I chose Khalil Shakir.
Don't toot your horn too ****ing hard yet. Metchie had to sit out his rookie year with ****ing leukemia. Shakir had a decent 2nd season, I'll give you that much.
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Old 03-19-2024, 08:10 PM   #11
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Don't toot your horn too ****ing hard yet. Metchie had to sit out his rookie year with ****ing leukemia. Shakir had a decent 2nd season, I'll give you that much.
Shakir is better.

It will be obvious by the end of this year.
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Old 03-20-2024, 10:20 AM   #12
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Modsocks and I had a debate about route running and WR's a few drafts ago.

My recollection was he said it was not important or that there was no way to know who was better than another.

So we made a bet by both picking our sleeper WR after the top guys were gone.


He chose John Metchie.

I chose Khalil Shakir.
Yeah i dont remember that. I don't recall being a strong Metchie proponent. Though im sure i did say something like, most of us can't see route running through YouTube highlights and that route running can be taught so long as the physical ability is there. Because i 100% believe that.
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Old 03-20-2024, 02:42 PM   #13
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Yeah i dont remember that. I don't recall being a strong Metchie proponent. Though im sure i did say something like, most of us can't see route running through YouTube highlights and that route running can be taught so long as the physical ability is there. Because i 100% believe that.
Yes, that sounds like what you said a few years ago.

While I won't say it is impossible someone just gets better at running routes in the NFL, it is just unlikely.

If you want to see what top end route running looks like, just throw on some Justin Jefferson or Davonte Adams.

Once you see that then contrast that with someone who is poor at it, such as Mecole Hardman. Worthy is harder to do because he isn't poor, but mediocre.

So concentrate on the high end and low end first.

It is why I was critical of the Mecole pick when guys like DK, McLaurin, and Diontae were all still on the board and all obviously much better at it than Mecole.

Most players that are weak or mediocre at route running don't change substantially.

AD Mitchell is already very good but he is not quite a finished product. I think he is very, very close. So I will trust that a guy can make a minor improvement but not bank on a substantial category change:

raw to mediocre

or mediocre to good
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Old 03-20-2024, 08:57 AM   #14
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That will never happen.

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Old 03-19-2024, 04:47 PM   #15
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Worthy’s hands scare the hell out of me. Constant focus drops
Yes, I wouldn't be ecstatic if we took him, but would understand the potential, but it would take a year.

Ladd McConkey is plug and play and would be great.
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