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Old 10-06-2013, 11:01 PM  
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As I am sure many of y'all already know, a spinoff of "Breaking Bad" titled "Better Call Saul" will be airing in 2014. This is going to be a prequel to Breaking Bad and will be based on the character of Saul Goodman from "Breaking Bad."

I, for one, will be watching. I'm sure the majority of all of you other "Breaking Bad" fans will be as well. Might as well get the discussion going sooner rather than later.

So... what are your hopes, expectations and/or concerns with the show? Here are some of mine:

Hopes: I hope to see Saul do his thing in the courtroom. I hope to see strong, unique supporting characters. I hope to see Breaking Bad foreshadowing. I hope he has an intriguing paralegal and/or assistant. I hope to see Breaking Bad characters such as Fring, Mike, etc...whoever. I hope the show kicks ass.

Expectations: I don't expect it to be as good as "Breaking Bad" (because nothing else is, really), but I expect it to be good since Vince Gilligan is writing. I somewhat expect it to have an even balance of comedy and drama...since Saul undeniably provides a substantial amount of comedic relief in "Breaking Bad." I expect to see "courtroom Saul." I expect the "Breaking Bad" references and character cameos to be less than what I hope. If it isn't even a fraction as good as "Breaking Bad," I expect it to be better than 95% of everything else on TV, since there is some shitty shit on TV these days.

Concerns: I'd be a liar if I were to say that I didn't think this show has potential of flopping and certainly failing to meet the presumed high expectations of the audience. Don't get me wrong, I think it will be good... but I think it COULD suck if not executed properly. My main concern is Saul ultimately proving himself to be a "little dab will do ya" type of character, which would lead to a show centered around his character not working out. I am hoping that the character of Saul will not be so over-used and constantly over the top, that he becomes annoying to me, thus ruining his character for me altogether... Not saying I think this will be how it goes down...just saying I think there is a CHANCE of this being the case, which prompts me to believe that a strong supporting cast is VITAL in terms of the amount of success/quality this show will accumulate. All in all, I don't think VG will steer us in an unfortunate direction though...I think they'll pull it off.

Thoughts?

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Old 08-16-2022, 12:06 PM   #2536
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Enjoyed these guys’ discussing the finale:

https://www.theringer.com/2022/8/16/...vince-gilligan

They term it a “generous” end to the show in terms of the time spent fleshing it out, giving all the major characters screen time, tying up loose ends, etc, and I think that’s well said.

I loved this ending the more I think about it.
That’s what I liked about it the most.

Checking in with Mike, Walter, and Jessie via flashbacks was the best kind of fan service.
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Old 08-16-2022, 01:03 PM   #2537
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That’s what I liked about it the most.

Checking in with Mike, Walter, and Jessie via flashbacks was the best kind of fan service.
Great point. Agree 100%
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Old 08-16-2022, 01:31 PM   #2538
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Now I think it's time to rewatch Breaking Bad, then Better Call Saul.
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Old 08-16-2022, 04:06 PM   #2539
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Jimmy/ Saul can live out his days in prison, which aren't exactly glamorous, but he's a folk hero to most of the individuals in there.
He'll be just fine there...and he's faced his demons. Kim knew it at the end thats what brought her back to see him the last time in jail. I thought this ended great as she walked away and he disappeared.
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Old 08-16-2022, 06:07 PM   #2540
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He'll be just fine there...and he's faced his demons. Kim knew it at the end thats what brought her back to see him the last time in jail. I thought this ended great as she walked away and he disappeared.
At least the guy finally has triples of the nova.
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Old 08-16-2022, 09:16 PM   #2541
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Holy shit, Saul's "flashbacks" were visits from 3 symbolic ghosts. Think "A Christmas Carol"

Mike in the desert
Walt in the basement of the vacuum place
Finally, his brother Chuck

Just watched a youtube video that pointed it out.
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Old 08-17-2022, 09:25 AM   #2542
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He'll be just fine there...
Until Marie Schrader or Cheryl Hamlin arranges to have him shivved.
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Old 08-17-2022, 11:22 AM   #2543
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Until Marie Schrader or Cheryl Hamlin arranges to have him shivved.
Doubt a lot of cons have sympathy for a DEA agent’s widow.
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Old 08-17-2022, 12:06 PM   #2544
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Doubt a lot of cons have sympathy for a DEA agent’s widow.
What does sympathy have to do with it?
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Old 08-17-2022, 12:11 PM   #2545
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Until Marie Schrader or Cheryl Hamlin arranges to have him shivved.
I almost expected as Kim walked around the corner Jimmy would turn around to find a few dudes with shivs that just stab the shit out of him. The camera shows Jimmy bleeding out on the ground and we switch to Marie getting a phone call saying "It's done".
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Old 08-17-2022, 12:53 PM   #2546
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Until Marie Schrader or Cheryl Hamlin arranges to have him shivved.
They aren't exactly deep in the criminal world, Walt could only pull it off because he ran into Todd along the way. They'd probably get arrested trying to hire someone.
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Old 08-17-2022, 07:10 PM   #2547
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I felt like they tied that element up well. Most of us would've thought, "Oh, god - this guy is never gonna last in prison," but then you saw the bus scene where he was essentially a celebrity who likely spends time in prison offering free legal advice. He'd be protected.

They didn't want to leave it as a guy who was going to be stuck in prison for 80+ years fearing for his life.
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Old 08-18-2022, 07:49 AM   #2548
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The show did a good job of bringing back BB characters - Hank, Gomez, Marie, Euell, and a few lesser criminals going through Saul's office.
El Camino had Badger and Skinny Pete, Todd and Vacuum Cleaner Man.

It's like thumbing through an old HS yearbook.

Absent were Walt Jr, and the much maligned Skyler.
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The show did a good job of bringing back BB characters - Hank, Gomez, Marie, Euell, and a few lesser criminals going through Saul's office.
El Camino had Badger and Skinny Pete, Todd and Vacuum Cleaner Man.

It's like thumbing through an old HS yearbook.

Absent were Walt Jr, and the much maligned Skyler.
The only one missing was Bill Burr as Kuby.
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Old 08-19-2022, 03:43 PM   #2550
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I like how Saul trolled Bill Oakley so much throughout the show and then did it one last time at the end
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