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Old 07-14-2021, 06:21 PM   #2
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The season ended on a cliffhanger, which is lame, especially considering it's going to be quite a while before Kang's next appearance, whether that's in another season of Loki that could debut at the end of 2022 or in the next Ant-Man movie, which won't be released until 2023.

That's a crazy long cliffhanger and wait.
I get that reaction but I can wait. I read a rumour before the episode that S2 had been greenlighted, so maybe that was a part of my reaction as well. I didn't expect closure going into the finale, so I wasn't too bothered when we didn't get that.

Personally, I liked this finale more than the Wandavision finale (we won't even get into TFATW which was pretty bad throughout the entire series and ended very poorly as well).
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Old 07-14-2021, 06:36 PM   #3
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I get that reaction but I can wait. I read a rumour before the episode that S2 had been greenlighted, so maybe that was a part of my reaction as well. I didn't expect closure going into the finale, so I wasn't too bothered when we didn't get that.

Personally, I liked this finale more than the Wandavision finale (we won't even get into TFATW which was pretty bad throughout the entire series and ended very poorly as well).
I think my opinion of TFATWS is well documented but I felt that series was a waste of not only $150 million dollars but a missed opportunity to do so much more with both characters, other than wallow in their past decision making. It was a downer.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree about WandaVision, especially since Loki hasn't concluded. But IMO, the finale of WV was amazing. We were not only introduced to White Vision but Agatha Harkness as a real MCU character as well (who Feige said yesterday "Won't return soon enough to the MCU), as well as finding out that the Skrulls have indeed infiltrated the highest levels of government and law enforcement. I don't think her "kids" are actually gone from the MCU, which is interesting in and of itself (think Young Avengers, Ms. Marvel, Kid Loki, Wanda's kids, etc.) and the final scene in which she's teleporting and reading the Darkhold was amazing.

The final episode of Loki seemed to me like an entire reset of the series: Everything that existed before is gone - his relationship with Sylvie, his relationship with Mobius and even moreso, the end of the TVA and a new Big Bad.

So much of Loki was just exposition. Had I known that it was going to end on a cliffhanger, I wouldn't have been as invested in the series, which kind of taints Season 2 for me, even this far out. I'm not sure if I'm down for another 5.5 hours of Loki talking about himself.
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Old 07-14-2021, 07:10 PM   #4
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The final episode of Loki seemed to me like an entire reset of the series: Everything that existed before is gone - his relationship with Sylvie, his relationship with Mobius and even moreso, the end of the TVA and a new Big Bad.
I don’t know if I would describe it as a complete reset. The impact of his character’s journey in those episodes (and particularly his relationships with Sylvie and Mobius) have changed Loki as a character irreversibly and will no doubt be felt in the following season. Sylvie and prime Mobius are presumably out there somewhere as well.

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So much of Loki was just exposition. Had I known that it was going to end on a cliffhanger, I wouldn't have been as invested in the series, which kind of taints Season 2 for me, even this far out. I'm not sure if I'm down for another 5.5 hours of Loki talking about himself.
If you’re looking at it from the greater MCU sense, a lot of it was exposition for sure (and maybe a bit too much in the finale). But from the standpoint of the primary characters of the series (Loki/Sylvie), I would mostly describe it as a love story told over 6 episodes that ended in crushing heartbreak.

And I guess I just don’t mind cliffhangers as much as most.
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Old 07-14-2021, 07:18 PM   #5
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I don’t know if I would describe it as a complete reset. The impact of his character’s journey in those episodes (and particularly his relationships with Sylvie and Mobius) have changed Loki as a character irreversibly and will no doubt be felt in the following season. Sylvie and prime Mobius are presumably out there somewhere as well.
Well, we'll see. This is Loki we're talking about.


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If you’re looking at it from the greater MCU sense, a lot of it was exposition for sure (and maybe a bit too much in the finale). But from the standpoint of the primary characters of the series (Loki/Sylvie), I would mostly describe it as a love story told over 6 episodes that ended in crushing heartbreak.

And I guess I just don’t mind cliffhangers as much as most.
I guess it's more an expectations thing for me.

WandaVision set the bar so freakin' high, as evidenced by its 23 Emmy Nominations and the hiring of the director for the next Star Trek film, that I probably expected too much from Loki, given the cast and character. I think that had I known that Disney+ planned multiple seasons, my expectations would have been tempered, especially for the finale. That said, I'm fairly certain that this will pass in the coming weeks and months and I'll be fully prepared to watch Season 2 when it's available for streaming.

I think my biggest beef is the cliffhanger. We had close to five hours to set up the series, yet we'll need to wait 18 months to two years to see how it resolves and concludes.

Now I know how the diehard viewers of Better Call Saul feel.
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Old 07-14-2021, 07:25 PM   #6
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Well, we'll see. This is Loki we're talking about.




I guess it's more an expectations thing for me.

WandaVision set the bar so freakin' high, as evidenced by its 23 Emmy Nominations and the hiring of the director for the next Star Trek film, that I probably expected too much from Loki, given the cast and character. I think that had I know that Disney+ planned multiple seasons, my expectations would have been tempered, especially for the finale. That said, I'm fairly certain that this will pass in the coming weeks and months and I'll be fully prepared to watch Season 2 when it's available for streaming.

I think my biggest beef is the cliffhanger. We had close to five hours to set up the series, yet we'll need to wait 18 months to few years to see how it concludes.

Now I know how viewers of Better Call Saul feel.
Wandavision was a great show, there’s no doubt. Loki had some very good episodes (episode 2 and particularly episode 4 stand out) for me, but I don’t think I can rank it above WV.

In recent times, the worst example of ending a season on a cliffhanger for me was Jon Snow’s “death” at the end of one of those GoT seasons. If I can accept that, though, I can accept Loki being sent to some parallel universe as the multiverse war begins.
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Old 07-14-2021, 07:46 PM   #7
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Wandavision was a great show, there’s no doubt. Loki had some very good episodes (episode 2 and particularly episode 4 stand out) for me, but I don’t think I can rank it above WV.

In recent times, the worst example of ending a season on a cliffhanger for me was Jon Snow’s “death” at the end of one of those GoT seasons. If I can accept that, though, I can accept Loki being sent to some parallel universe as the multiverse war begins.
Which, that Season 5 cliffhanger works perfectly fine in the context of season 6.

Can’t say the same about Season 8, though. Sigh…
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