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Old 11-23-2020, 11:15 AM  
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Patrick Mahomes is now the overwhelming NFL MVP favorite
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NFL odds: After Sunday night, Patrick Mahomes is now the overwhelming NFL MVP favorite

Frank Schwab 2 hrs ago

We can cease and desist with any debate about someone other than Patrick Mahomes being the NFL MVP favorite.

You’ll hear people argue that Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson, Alvin Kamara or anyone else should be “in the conversation,” but the only real talk is that the Kansas City Chiefs quarterback is the overwhelming favorite until further notice. Everyone else is vying for NFL offensive player of the year, though Mahomes should probably win that too.

Sunday night’s heroics, leading a game-winning drive over the Las Vegas Raiders everyone knew was coming, solidified Mahomes’ position. He’s the best player in football and he’s having a phenomenal year.

The odds at BetMGM reflect that.

Mahomes is -118 to win MVP at BetMGM. Next on the list is Wilson at +350. Aaron Rodgers is +550 and nobody else is less than 12-to-1.
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Old 12-27-2020, 11:37 PM   #721
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In what way? Mahomes had a teribble game and Rodgers had a 4 touchdown game against a playoff team and currently has 44 touchdowns to 5 picks on 70+% completion. At this point the only raw stat Mahomes has working for him is yards.
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Old 12-27-2020, 11:41 PM   #722
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In what way? Mahomes had a teribble game and Rodgers had a 4 touchdown game against a playoff team and currently has 44 touchdowns to 5 picks on 70+% completion. At this point the only raw stat Mahomes has working for him is yards.
And that pesky stat called - WINS!
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Old 12-27-2020, 11:48 PM   #723
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And that pesky stat called - WINS!
Ok so we have:

Wins: Mahomes
Yards: Mahomes
Touchdowns: Rodgers
Completion percentage: Rodgers
Interceptions: Rodgers
TD:INT ratio: Rodgers
Passer Ratings: Rodgers
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:02 AM   #724
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Patrick Mahomes is now the overwhelming NFL MVP favorite
The only way Rodgers loses it is if he is the main reason, like the Bucs game, that they lose to the Bears. And if they somehow lose the bye that would really do it. Mahomes probably still needs to get to that 5,000 yards and 40 TD mark in this scenario to really make him the obvious choice.
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:05 AM   #725
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In what way? Mahomes had a teribble game and Rodgers had a 4 touchdown game against a playoff team and currently has 44 touchdowns to 5 picks on 70+% completion. At this point the only raw stat Mahomes has working for him is yards.
Yep. It's Rogers to lose now.
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:05 AM   #726
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In what way? Mahomes had a teribble game and Rodgers had a 4 touchdown game against a playoff team and currently has 44 touchdowns to 5 picks on 70+% completion. At this point the only raw stat Mahomes has working for him is yards.
Mahomes put up his stats against some of the best teams in the NFL, while having every single team he played treat it like their super bowl. Rogers put up his stats against mostly garbage teams. Rogers had a great season, but Mahomes is league MVP.
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:13 AM   #727
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Mahomes should’ve won this award this season. He had it all but locked up after the TB game.

Instead he essentially choked it away with very poor performances by his standards in 3 of the subsequent 4 games.

It sucks because I really wanted it for him, but it’s not gonna happen this year and I have to think this is one that he’ll look back on at the end of his career and kick himself a little for.

Oh well. On to bigger and better things.
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Mahomes effectively shit the ****ing bed today. Rodgers owns most of the relevant QB stats for the season. W/L is not a relevant QB stat.

Let it go, people. Rodgers deserves to win this year's MVP award. Period.

Mahomes will win a couple handfuls of MVPs over his career. Just not this year's.

As long as he wins the SB who gives a ripe shit.
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Mahomes put up his stats against some of the best teams in the NFL, while having every single team he played treat it like their super bowl. Rogers put up his stats against mostly garbage teams. Rogers had a great season, but Mahomes is league MVP.
The schedule is the schedule. Other than the Bucs he was great in basically every other game he played.

Also after Mahomes game against the falcons today, I don't think you can use the "garbage team" knock against Rodgers.
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:16 AM   #730
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Rodgers should win it this year, however, put him behind this line the last 5 weeks and he isn't near as effective as Mahomes.
Rodgers would flat out suck behind our line.

It is what it is though.

To win the MVP you gotta have a strong team around you and it just so happens that Rodgers is blessed with a great o-line while Mahomes dogshit one is probably the main reason he won’t bring home the trophy.
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Mahomes should’ve won this award this season. He had it all but locked up after the TB game.

Instead he essentially choked it away with very poor performances by his standards in 3 of the subsequent 4 games.

It sucks because I really wanted it for him, but it’s not gonna happen this year and I have to think this is one that he’ll look back on at the end of his career and kick himself a little for.

Oh well. On to bigger and better things.
10 wins in a row- including another 4th quarter comeback win today and a gutsy win against the best defense last week- and Mahomes Choked it Away!!

BTW- Rodgers just had a worse game last week.
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Old 12-28-2020, 12:21 AM   #732
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10 wins in a row- including another 4th quarter comeback win today and a gutsy win against the best defense last week- and Mahomes Choked it Away!!

BTW- Rodgers just has a worse game last week.
I mean he did. We’ve won but he has four turnovers over those three games and totally flunked the eye test.

He hasn’t been “bad” by normal QB standards, but when you’re competing for the MVP you’re just held to a much higher standard. Like it or not he just hasn’t met that standard consistently enough recently.

And yes I think he played great against the Saints.
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Ok so we have:

Wins: Mahomes
Yards: Mahomes
Touchdowns: Rodgers
Completion percentage: Rodgers
Interceptions: Rodgers
TD:INT ratio: Rodgers
Passer Ratings: Rodgers
STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE= MAHOMES
WINS AGAINST TEAMS OVER 500= MAHOMES
WINS AGAINST PLAYOFF TEAMS= MAHOMES
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The schedule is the schedule. Other than the Bucs he was great in basically every other game he played.

Also after Mahomes game against the falcons today, I don't think you can use the "garbage team" knock against Rodgers.
That's a lie. He was shocking against the Jags and last week against Carolina. He has also played a soft schedule facing some of the worst teams in the league and also san fran who had their best players all injured. How many qb's have gone 14-1 and not got mvp? I'm not sure It's ever happened.
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Ok so we have:

Wins: Mahomes
Yards: Mahomes
Touchdowns: Rodgers
Completion percentage: Rodgers
Interceptions: Rodgers
TD:INT ratio: Rodgers
Passer Ratings: Rodgers
And Mahomes has:
More Wins
Completions
Yards
Yards per Game
Yards per Attempt
Rushing Yards
Rushing Yards Per Game
Rushing Yards Per Attempt
First Downs
8 Road Wins (Best in Chiefs History) against 6 Playoff Teams
10 Game win streak against a harder schedule than Rodgers
More 4th Quarter Comebacks
Better record and stats against the same teams.
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