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11-03-2020, 12:57 AM | #2 |
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Directed by the same guy, Nick Meyer.
He knows his shit. And Shakespeare. And he wrote the screenplay for Star Trek IV. Basically, Nick is a genius. |
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11-03-2020, 02:09 AM | #3 |
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I like both Star Trek II and Star Trek VI, but I would have to give the edge to Wrath of Khan...too many classic moments.
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11-03-2020, 06:32 AM | #4 |
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Star Trek II. VI is really good, as is First Contact, but II is pretty much untouchable. Best villain, great special effects that still hold up today, and it also saved the franchise; another outing like the first movie would pretty much been the end of it, at least for a long time. Imagine a world where there was no Next Generation or Deep Space Nine, and instead we went straight into the Jar Jar Abrams reboot. *shudder*
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11-03-2020, 06:52 AM | #5 |
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Khan beats it, but Undiscovered Country is still very, very good.
Christopher Plummer created a pretty good villain too. |
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11-03-2020, 08:11 AM | #6 |
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What would have been the best part of Undiscovered County sadly never happened. Meyer wanted the Valeris character to be Saavik, but Roddenberry shot it down. That would have made her betrayal of Kirk and Spock far more poignant.
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11-03-2020, 01:24 PM | #7 |
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Interesting......never heard that before. II is my favorite but VI is definitely my #2. I loved the space battle at the end of VI and always preferred the Klingons as bad guys!
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11-03-2020, 01:29 PM | #8 |
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1. II - The Wrath of Khan
2. VI - The Undiscovered Country 3. IV - The Voyage Home 4. Beyond 5. First Contact 6. Star Trek (2009) 7. III - The Search for Spock 8. I - TMP ----shit line---- 9. Insurrection 10. Generations 11. Nemesis 12. Into Darkness 13. V - The Final Frontier |
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11-03-2020, 02:02 PM | #9 |
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I have to admit i haven't even seen all of those, but the whale one was definitely the worst one i have seen.
That being said, i haven't seen one better than II. |
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11-03-2020, 02:09 PM | #10 | |
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Star Trek needs a good villain. A mindless alien probe trying to talk to whales just doesn't cut it. |
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11-03-2020, 02:27 PM | #11 |
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Well double dumbass on you!
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11-03-2020, 02:45 PM | #12 |
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The Wrath of Khan was an amazing film and what was even more amazing was doing a Q&A with Nicholas Meyer after the first screening of the film back in 1982. The VFX weren't finished and there were a few scenes that needed to be re-shot but it was a really incredible experience.
My second favorite is First Contact. That movie took Trek lore to 11 and was a super fun movie to boot. Great casting all around, especially Zefram Cochrane. I probably enjoyed IV and VI about the same although they're completely different in terms of tone. The rest are "okay" although Generations is completely unwatchable for me, as are the other two TNG movies. The way they killed off Kirk was ridiculous and in no way, shape or form, honored the character, IMO. |
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11-03-2020, 02:58 PM | #13 | |
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The one I hate the most is Insurrection. It was like a bad NG episode made into a movie. I remember being very unhappy as I left the theater. |
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As much as I hated the way Disney treated Luke Skywalker, I think the treatment of James T. Kirk was far worse. My adrenaline is pumping right now, just thinking about it! |
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11-03-2020, 03:20 PM | #15 |
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You won't like First Contact nearly as much as you once did if you watch this:
Plinkett makes some excellent points, too. Watch at your risk. |
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