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09-23-2020, 10:08 AM | #2 | |
In Search of a Life
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Even Tim Tebow had a couple good throws in his playoff run but that didn’t make him a great (or even a good) QB. Need to see more. |
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09-23-2020, 10:19 AM | #3 | |
Needs more middle fingers
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He played within the confines of his offense, so the "Dink and dunk" argument is moot. He was very accurate actually. He displayed good arm strength, excellent athleticism and he was poised through the entire game aside from one boneheaded play that did in fact look open for a second there. He displayed all of the qualities you could reasonably expect to see from a 1st time starter that had no game preparation. He displayed that all of the tools are in fact there, and with experience and refinement at the very least he should be a good starter. And lets not act like we weren't here proclaiming Pat's greatness after his no-TD performance against the Broncos. That's quit the double standard. |
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09-23-2020, 10:22 AM | #4 | |
'Tis my eye!
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09-23-2020, 10:29 AM | #5 | |
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The ball came out crisp, he was accurate, he didn't flinch in the pocket, he was poised, he displayed excellent athleticism... People were down on this kid coming out, and they were wrong. And if you're down on him now, you're still wrong. |
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09-23-2020, 10:31 AM | #6 | |
'Tis my eye!
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And again, he was poised until he basically threw the game away on a throw that every QB is told from the time they can walk not to make. I'm down on EVERY QB coming out. Why? Because 3/4 of them never pan out. That's just the way it is. I'm not going to crown any of them until they've proven something. |
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09-23-2020, 10:33 AM | #7 | |
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Just basing it off his 1 game though, the arrow is pointed up until he proves otherwise. There was a lot to like there. You haven't presented an argument yet that proves otherwise. |
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09-23-2020, 10:40 AM | #8 | |
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This isn’t like Mahomes because Herbert did literally nothing eye popping. It was your typical shit — Mahomes made 5+ plays in his debut that dropped your jaw. The kid might be alright but it’s far from a sure thing. |
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09-23-2020, 10:52 AM | #9 | |
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And yeah, he did have some "wow" throws. The throw to the corner of the end zone was an excellent throw that was on the money, open or not. Shitty QB's miss that throw all the time. And the throw to (Ekeler?) down the sideline was an excellent throw. The throw to Keenan Allen, over the defenders arm while getting hit, that wasn't a great throw? GMAFB. This is just CP hating on any QB not named Mahomes, like always. |
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09-23-2020, 10:53 AM | #10 |
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09-23-2020, 10:56 AM | #11 |
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Dude, you literally just made a post that basically said that.
You have a problem with every QB not named Mahomes or Wilson. That says a lot about your evaluations. You're looking for reasons to dislike QB's, rather than looking at what they do well. |
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09-23-2020, 11:00 AM | #12 | |
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I don't dislike any of them. I don't particularly LIKE any of them either, save for Murray. I have significant questions about all of those QBs, other than Lamar Jackson, and even he has warts. You simply can't separate the good from the bad and isolate one without considering the other. Carson Wentz is great example. When he's on the field, he's exceptional. But he can't stay healthy. He's the Dee Ford of QB's and ultimately, THAT MATTERS when evaluating him. |
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09-23-2020, 11:10 AM | #13 | |
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The TD pass is solid but he’s just throwing to a spot. Fenton has no chance if he just hit the general back corner, and he did. Good, but the receiver was wide open. I’ll give you the throw to Allen over the middle. Best one. He misplaced the ball to Allen on the sideline where Sneed seems to have slipped up, otherwise he might pick that ball. Everything else is pretty much checkdowns, screens, quick game where the receivers tack on extra yardage due to poor tackling. And this is just his completion reel. I stand by my OP. There is no way based off of that one game to say that he’s the answer for them already for 10-15 years. |
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09-23-2020, 11:13 AM | #14 | |
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Well that's a no shit, my argument is that there's a lot to like about his debut, and very little reason to hate. He didn't do anything that should cause doubt. |
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09-23-2020, 11:30 AM | #15 | |
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He cost them the game with a really poor decision on the interception. Rookie mistake, sure. But as you said, “woulda coulda shoulda”... I don’t hate what I saw. I just don’t love it. And if I’m to bet on him being really good or materializing into a bust, I’ll take the latter. |
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