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Old 09-20-2020, 05:50 PM  
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Let's talk about the Ravens
Quite possibly a preview of the AFC Championship game.

Hopefully we can get healthy by Sunday
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Old 09-22-2020, 12:13 PM   #331
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There is no statistical evidence to support this ridiculous statement.
It's not ridiculous if you aren't a Ravens fan.

Statistical evidence? Let's compare units:

"Front" players (not a 1x1 since we're comparing a 43 to a 34 base scheme)
Bosa, Ingram, Tillery, Joseph vs. Campbell, Wolfe, Judon, Williams

This is a nod to the Chargers at this point, and it really wasn't close. Joseph is still a run-plugging machine, and he and Williams are similar. Bosa is better than Campbell at this point in their careers, Judon and Ingram are equivalent, with perhaps a slight edge to Judon, and Tillery is better than Derek Wolfe is, was, or ever will be.

LB
Again, we're comparing different fronts, but let's use this grouping:

Murray, Perryman, Kyzir White vs. Queen, McPhee, Fort

I give Murray the edge here over Queen (bigger, drafted higher), and rest are equivalent... good scheme fits who execute well.

Secondary
Peters and Humphrey are an outstanding CB duo and better than the Chargers' best 2 CB (Chris Harris and Heyward), but the Chargers have major advantages beyond their top two corners. Their 3rd CB is much better than the Ravens' current options, and they're stronger at safety with Adderly and/or Desmond King back there.
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Old 09-22-2020, 12:29 PM   #332
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And to build onto your point Duncan, while I think Peters and Humphrey are a better duo too, they are not as reliable when it comes to staying assignment sound as LA’s corners. In that stagnant scheme where preventing big plays is the #1 goal, you can count on Harris and Hayward more to do that IMO.

If we’re assuming the Ravens try to replicate a zone heavy game plan.
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Old 09-22-2020, 12:32 PM   #333
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I find it hard to believe the Ravens are going to drastically change what they do.
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Old 09-22-2020, 12:34 PM   #334
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The Ravens really just don’t match up well with the Chiefs. Watching them and I don’t see any difference from last year on both sides of the ball. If the Chiefs don’t make stupid mistakes they’ll win. The Chargers match up better with us than the Ravens.
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I find it hard to believe the Ravens are going to drastically change what they do.
I’m not really sure what they’ve been doing so far TBH. We’ve never played them since acquiring Peters, it would make sense if his addition resulted in more zone coverages.
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Old 09-22-2020, 12:50 PM   #336
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Old 09-22-2020, 01:04 PM   #337
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I really think our secondary is going to be lethal by mid-season.

Breeland, Ward, Fenton, and Sneed at CB. Mathieu and a healthy in-shape Thornhill at safety. That’s gotta be a top 5-10 group.
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Old 09-22-2020, 01:16 PM   #338
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I actually think Fenton has been okay out there so far. Yeah he technically gave up that TD but Sorenson left his man and totally ****ed him there.

I like him against possession type receivers. Great value for a late round pick
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Old 09-22-2020, 01:18 PM   #339
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I actually think Fenton has been okay out there so far. Yeah he technically gave up that TD but Sorenson left his man and totally ****ed him there.

I like him against possession type receivers. Great value for a late round pick
I especially like him as our 4th best corner. We’ve had PLENTY of teams in the past where he would’ve been our best.
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Old 09-22-2020, 01:21 PM   #340
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I actually think Fenton has been okay out there so far. Yeah he technically gave up that TD but Sorenson left his man and totally ****ed him there.

I like him against possession type receivers. Great value for a late round pick
Fenton did his job there. That’s also a ridiculous throw that I’m sure Fenton just didn’t expect Herbert to attempt.
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Old 09-22-2020, 01:22 PM   #341
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Fenton did his job there. That’s also a ridiculous throw that I’m sure Fenton just didn’t expect Herbert to attempt.
No, sorry. Fenton's job was to maintain the deep 3rd zone. He screwed up by vacating the zone and biting on the up man.
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Old 09-22-2020, 01:25 PM   #342
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No, sorry. Fenton's job was to maintain the deep 3rd zone. He screwed up by vacating the zone and biting on the up man.
Jt O’Sullivan broke the play down in this video. I recommend everyone watches it.

https://youtu.be/wykXPqN7JCI
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Also, you continue to throw Wolfe’s name around like he’s not an old brokedick. They lost Wormley, who’s a better player than Wolfe at this point.
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Nothing he said refutes my post.

The Chiefs were in a 3-deep zone. The slot WR got separation in his zone and Fenton bit up instead of staying in his zone.

EDIT: Nevermind. Later in the analysis he said the DB is definitely trying to hedge. So he absolutely agrees with me.
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