***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

If wearing a mask everywhere for 90 days puts this thing in the ground, for ****s sake, lets just do it and be done with it.

[dirk digler]

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-07-15/...-robert-peston

I am hearing there will be positive news soon (perhaps tomorrow) on initial trials of the Oxford Covid-19 vaccine that is backed by AstraZeneca and supported by tens of millions of pounds of government money.

The first data is due be published in the Lancet.

Apparently the vaccine is generating the kind of antibody and T-cell (killer cell) response that the researchers would hope to see.

That said, the efficacy will only be properly established in the large phase III programme that is under way in the viral epicentre of Brazil, to deliver a large database that assesses safety as well as efficacy.

One source told me: “An important point to keep in mind is that there are two dimensions to the immune response: antibodies and T-cells..

“Everybody is focussed on antibodies but there is a growing body of evidence suggesting that the T-cells response is important in the defence against coronavirus.

As I understand, not all of the many vaccines under development across the world increase both antibodies and T-cells. But the Oxford vaccine looks as though it has this twin effect.

It remains relatively early days: No effective vaccine has ever been developed as rapidly as is being attempted for Covid-19. And there could still be disappointment and failure.

If the Oxford vaccine is proven effective, it could go into mass production as early as September.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

Arizona and Texas MAYBE showing signs of turning over and coming down the curve. Maybe.

Florida and California not yet though.

So I have pretty much just focused on the JoCo dashboard but I just peeped the Kansas dashboard and was a bit surprised. No one under the age of 29 has died in Ks and only 66 people under the age of 64, which I would consider working age, have died in the entire state. In 4 months.

I really would have thought it to be worse to be honest. But those numbers reassure me that we need to make efforts to get the schools opened. I could see older Teachers wanting to do the remote teaching and of course Parents have the option for hybrid and\or remote learning. But in class has got to be on the table at this point.

[TLO]

This is a good video. I can't embed on mobile.

https://youtu.be/bZpw3qllNhc

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish

Pete, it was a joke you emotional man. Who hurt you in this thread?

I was calling you a dip shit for not recommending cocaine.....keep up

[TLO]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-07-15/...-robert-peston

Start mass producing now. If it doesn't hold up, throw it out. Certainly someone can fund this.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

This is a good video. I can't embed on mobile.

https://youtu.be/bZpw3qllNhc

Let me help...

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by TLO

Start mass producing now. If it doesn't hold up, throw it out. Certainly someone can fund this.

Agreed and the US has already made a huge purchase for 400 million doses

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

If wearing a mask everywhere for 90 days puts this thing in the ground, for ****s sake, lets just do it and be done with it.

I would agree. However all it takes is one person who is infected to flare it all up again.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by O.city

If wearing a mask everywhere for 90 days puts this thing in the ground, for ****s sake, lets just do it and be done with it.

That needed to happen in March when people were actually scared.

If they came out and said mandatory nation wide mask for 4 weeks then we wont have 1 restriction people may buy in but there is too much skepticism at this point.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I was calling you a dip shit for not recommending cocaine.....keep up

Ah.. I see. Well, I’m not sure cocaine would help. Although, I have learned all sorts of holistic medicine from the help desk today.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

Start mass producing now. If it doesn't hold up, throw it out. Certainly someone can fund this.

They are.

They said they could have a billion or so by October, I think. That may be pfizer though.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by TLO

Start mass producing now. If it doesn't hold up, throw it out. Certainly someone can fund this.

Like the commercials always end...."blah blah blah Can't afford this medication? AstraZenica can help."

[loochy]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

That needed to happen in March when people were actually scared.

If they came out and said mandatory nation wide mask for 4 weeks then we wont have 1 restriction people may buy in but there is too much skepticism at this point.

Yup. They lost trust when they lied about the mask thing initially (no matter their intentions).

[TLO]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Agreed and the US has already made a huge purchase for 400 million doses