***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Strongside]

This is the first time in weeks I’ve seen this thread down to the middle of the front page in the lounge.

Progress?

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Strongside

This is the first time in weeks I’ve seen this thread down to the middle of the front page in the lounge.

Progress?

90% of the members here have been booted from the thread...if you want to call that progress?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Strongside

This is the first time in weeks I’ve seen this thread down to the middle of the front page in the lounge.

Progress?

News isn't unexpected lately, though obviously still dire.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

90% of the members here have been booted from the thread...if you want to call that progress?

This is probably part of it.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

This BBC report on the situation in the US ... damn pic.twitter.com/9ZH4sGt08a

— John Whitehouse (@existentialfish) April 6, 2020

The reporter has better ppe then the hospital smh.

[jerryaldini]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

Media loves fear, loves it

I normally support the media as a critical watchdog. But I agree in this event too many have reached for the edge of the confidence interval as the worst case. I've seen it in my own community where the curve has clearly flattened and the projections have plummeted, but the headlines make no mention of this and even still talk about rationing care.

CNN has been abysmal, seeking to score political points at every turn. You could read the headlines in the NYT this morning and believe we are Italy in early March.
Good news on the improving data is grudgingly acknowledged, if at all. Distancing has clearly been effective and that should be the headline.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by jerryaldini

I normally support the media as a critical watchdog. But I agree in this event too many have reached for the edge of the confidence interval as the worst case. I've seen it in my own community where the curve has clearly flattened and the projections have plummeted, but the headlines make no mention of this and even still talk about rationing care.

CNN has been abysmal, seeking to score political points at every turn. You could read the headlines in the NYT this morning and believe we are Italy in early March.
Good news on the improving data is grudgingly acknowledged, if at all. Distancing has clearly been effective and that should be the headline.

Yeah but that's 100% because that's what the experts and officials are telling them. The Surgeon General of the United States is literally saying to everyone that this week is going to be a "Pearl Harbor" moment. The media isn't making him say that. This isn't some guy trying to make political points, this is the lead health official in the United States appointed by the President. And he's saying it's going to get worse.

[jerryaldini]

Yeah and NY will be bad, is bad, but not nearly what had been expected. No care rationing. Certainly NY, NJ, New Orleans and Detroit are bad. But they act as though there's no end in sight and as though the outlook is worsening when in fact it's much improved.

[Demonpenz]

Wait until the civil unrests happens. They are calling me Locked and Loaded Lackman in lenexa

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Wait until the civil unrests happens. They are calling me Locked and Loaded Lackman in lenexa

Do you still work at the aldi out there?

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Apparently the ones making them don't as well.

I don’t get it. You could see that the trends were upsetting the projections last week. At least I could and I posted as much. And I’m just some dude on a Chiefs fan forum with a spreadsheet I wrote in 15 minutes.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

I don’t get it. You could see that the trends were upsetting the projections last week. At least I could and I posted as much. And I’m just some dude on a Chiefs fan forum with a spreadsheet I wrote in 15 minutes.

Social distancing worked better than the models expected it to work?

[petegz28]

Apparently they do think the summer will help because I keep hearing they are worried about the fall when temps get cooler. It's not secret that viruses do better in colder weather but many have been reluctant to say warmer temps will help. Can't see how you have it both ways?

[BigRedChief]

This is what fear does to the ill-Informed

A man feared his longtime girlfriend had covid-19, which she didn’t. They died in a murder-suicide, police say. https://t.co/gLzjqXHl5i

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) April 7, 2020

[petegz28]

How lucky are you to be in this country?

Italy has 132,547 total cases with 16,523 deaths

Our country has 367,650 cases with 10,943 deaths

those are shocking numbers