***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

thats the thing Medical Professionals are doing their thing. Where is the update from NY's trial?

Today is only day 3 of the trial.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

no developing cancer from a drug in use for 70 years is not possible......

Dosage might be different and longer prone than a Malaria patient. Long stemming effects of a drug taken 5 times a week for three weeks might have worse effects than a drug taken 5 times for one week. We're in uncharted territories, so for you to say there's no way is about as assured as me saying that anything is possible. Only time will tell in this case, but even if it isn't something as dire as cancer, other side effects could be as debilitating.

[Titty Meat]

Have we established any sort of reasoning why out CFR for this thing isn1 of the lowest in the world?

[Kidd Lex]

Because these are known drugs that are safe for most people, if this works as well as advertised we will know by this time next week. The clinical trials won’t be done or published, but the early returns will be obvious as the claims are patient improvements in 4-6 hours. I like that there is science for why these would work, but remain cautiously optimistic because the clinical trials to date are flawed and the work of one family practitioner is anecdotal, and not anything close to definitive enough to roll out everywhere.

If these drugs work as advertised the only people this won’t help are ones with pre-existing arrhythmia issues and or allergies to these drugs. Let’s hope this isn’t much to do about nothing.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

What?

They haven't even tested 100K people yet, from any available data I can see.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/least...142714139.html

That was what I saw.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Donger

Professionals like Dr. Vladimir Zelenko!

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Hey man lets not make fun of religious culture........ No matter how funny it might seem

[Hammock Parties]

Can we nominate Zelenko for the Nobel Prize in Medicine when this is all said and done?

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by F150

SPRINGFIELD, Ill (NEXSTAR) — Hospitals across the state are lacking proper equipment to deal with the Coronavirus.

Personal protective equipment and ventilators are few and far between. But the University of Illinois College of Engineering might have a breakthrough that could fix the problem.

They are calling it their Apollo 13 moment. A new emergency ventilator prototype that could soon be in hospitals across the state.

“This is a device that could be rapidly deployed,” Bill King, a University of Illinois engineering professor on the project said. “It is a simple device. It’s suitable for emergency situations where a regular hospital ventilator is not available.”

A team of 40 University of Illinois professors and medical professionals and physicians from Carle Hospital did what they thought was impossible.

They were able to build an emergency ventilator in just a week.

The prototype works very well,” King said. “So far it has run for 75 hours straight, and more than 125 thousand breathing cycles. It is staggering what this group of individuals has been able to do.”

The team has only been working on the product for a couple of weeks, but if all goes as planned, the emergency ventilator could be mass-produced sooner rather than later. All it needs now is FDA approval.

The IMA is now working with the University of Illinois and some of our medical device manufacturers to see if this can be produced in Illinois and be used in hospitals across Illinois and across the United States,” Mark Denzler, President of the Illinois Manufacturers Association said.

The University is partnered with the Illinois Manufacturers Association.

Factories across Illinois are already committed to building the supplies to keep hospitals running, and if that happens, it could change the game for hospitals moving forward against COVID-19.

“At that moment where we all saw it worked, it was such a moment of joy and excitement and shared experience for our team,” King said. “It was really amazing.”

The group now will take the prototype to clinical trials.

If it makes it through clinical trials, then it can get FDA approval and be ready for production.

This is great but it sounds like another one of these things we’ve been hearing about that won’t be available any time soon to help when the need is highest which is apparently in these next few weeks.

[WhawhaWhat]

A brief example of the layers of clothing and gear doctors and nurses are using to protect themselves every single day from the Coronavirus. Simply heroic.

Humanity.❤️������❤️pic.twitter.com/rdFhXhxP0k

— Rex Chapman���� (@RexChapman) March 30, 2020

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

First, you'd need to be able to establish a reduction in viral load to an improvement in outcomes. There are tons of drugs that lead to improvements in clinical measurements but do not improve morbidity or mortality.

In heart failure with reduced ejection fraction there are three beta-blockers with evidence demonstrating a mortality benefit: metoprolol, carvedilol, and bisoprolol. Sure, other beta-blockers will reduce BP, but BP reduction is not itself always clinically significant, nor is the reduction in BP where the mortality benefit is derived from.

You guys really need to leave this to the professionals, because you're arguing about metrics that you don't understand and it is both harmful and incredibly arrogant.

Exactly. Look at Niacin.

[Boise_Chief]

That looks miserable.

[BleedingRed]

The United States has test 700,000 people in 10 Days..... We are lapping other countries in testing.

[Lprechaun]

One of the jobs I had to shut down was installing crown and building some cabinetry for a doctor at the local hospital.
This morning was the day we had planned to get back on it... he called almost in tears saying the hospital is almost at a breaking point. Some of the doctors and nurses dont think they can cope with it, some questioning their ability to hang on to little strength they have left.
I have the strength to work in dangerous situations and in situations some shouldnt or wouldnt.... I could never be in the medical field.
I told him us that arent are truly grateful for their sacrifices, he has isolated himself from his wife and young daughter and even his dog who sits and stares at him thru windows in another part of their house.