Star Wars Episode IX - SPOILER THREAD

[ScareCrowe]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I'm sorry, I just don't buy it.

It doesn't fit with the character, and there's no precedent for it.

Again, which character does it fit better with? No established Jedi showed signs of betraying the code over a relationship except Anakin. So you either have to make her related to no one, which makes explaining her insane powers hard. Or tie her to some unknown jedi, which would be pretty anticlimactic. The only way they came up with to explain Rey's powers were the force diad thing, which required her to be a Palpatine.

A sith makes the most sense IMO. But again he was cornered in by both his own writing in TFA & what Rian did in TLJ. The biggest issue with this trilogy is that the movies don't work well together. When viewed as a stand alone film they aren't that bad IMO. It's when you start to try to follow the story across the entire trilogy that it really starts to fall apart. Even worse when you try to connect in to the original trilogy.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by ScareCrowe

Again, which character does it fit better with? .

Non-Jedi. Non-Sith. People who aren't wholly devoted to evil and power.

Make her a ****ing nobody and don't make her OP. Make her a ****ing clone or something - at least I can buy that.

Or just **** everything up and become Transformers and throw CGI at the audience and hope they don't notice.

It's just badly written and not believable.

**** the ST. **** JJ. They made stupid films and shit on established canon that actually made sense. Don't defend them.

[ScareCrowe]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Non-Jedi. Non-Sith. People who aren't wholly devoted to evil and power.

Make her a ****ing nobody and don't make her OP. Make her a ****ing clone or something - at least I can buy that.

Or just **** everything up and become Transformers and throw CGI at the audience and hope they don't notice.

It's just badly written and not believable.

**** the ST. **** JJ. They made stupid films and shit on established canon that actually made sense. Don't defend them.

Problem is you're now retconning 2 movies worth of plot. Sure if they could undo what they did in TFA & TLJ we could come up with other believable ways to go. The problem is that wasn't an option. Given where the story was left off in TLJ where would you have gone with it. How would you have explained her parentage in a way that makes sense & is consistent with the characters as they've been shown to us and also explains how Rey seemingly is the most powerful force user we've ever seen with no pedigree or real training of any kind.

And I'm not absolving JJ, he partly set this up in TFA. Then RJ took it a step further in the TLJ until we arrived at a point where crafting a story that made sense for the final chapter was difficult. Hell just as a movie watcher that played a part in my lack of exitement for episode 9 as I myself wondered "where do they go with this for a 9th movie"