Captain Marvel

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Maybe if she could act well enough to carry a blockbuster. But she can't.

And Gadot IS Wonder Woman now. No question about that. Regardless of what or who anybody might have wanted, she owned the role and now she embodies it.

Oh yeah, acting ability is important in an overwrought live action cartoon. Too bad Meryl Streep wasn't available to play Wonder Woman.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Frazod

Oh yeah, acting ability is important in an overwrought live action cartoon. Too bad Meryl Streep wasn't available to play Wonder Woman.

Not sure what you're trying to argue here. This isn't the 70s. Marvel and DC have both taken their properties really seriously, actors and directors, since they started this push into mainstream movies. Nearly everybody is A-list at this point. Carano was fine for something like a secondary villain role in Deadpool, but there's no way she could've carried a tentpole spring/summer movie on her own.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Not sure what you're trying to argue here. This isn't the 70s. Marvel and DC have both taken their properties really seriously, actors and directors, since they started this push into mainstream movies. Nearly everybody is A-list at this point. Carano was fine for something like a secondary villain role in Deadpool, but there's no way she could've carried a tentpole spring/summer movie on her own.

I think she'd have done just fine. Obviously there's no way of knowing for sure. These movies are popular primarily because of the CGI and action scenes, not the actors displaying their alleged chops between CGI action scenes. Seriously, how many of the stars of these films are truly talented actors when you take all that shit away? It's not like everybody is Robert Downey Jr.

[Sully]

Originally Posted by Frazod

I think she'd have done just fine. Obviously there's no way of knowing for sure. These movies are popular primarily because of the CGI and action scenes, not the actors displaying their alleged chops between CGI action scenes. Seriously, how many of the stars of these films are truly talented actors when you take all that shit away? It's not like everybody is Robert Downey Jr.

Nearly the entire Marvel Avengers cast or actors, and even some minor characters, are pretty well-respected actors.

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[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Sully

Nearly the entire Marvel Avengers cast or actors, and even some minor characters, are pretty well-respected actors.

I mean Mark Ruffalo is playing the hulk, FFS.

Dude's politics are annoying as hell but he's a respected actor playing a slobbering monster.

Any 'anchor' character has been portrayed by someone who is at least a solid actor. Evans was fantastic in Snowpiercer, Hemsworth has actually shown solid chops outside of the MCU, Cumberbatch, Johansson, Renner, Boseman, Saldana; even less 'refined' actors like Rudd, Pratt and Samuel L. Jackson have held their own outside of the MCU. Even the secondary characters tend to be playing down; Michael Douglas, Glenn Close, Sebastian Stan, Anthony Hopkins, Idris Elba, Josh Brolin, Benicio Del Toro, Mads Mikkelsen, Chiwetel Ojiofer, Rachel Adams, Kurt Russell, Michael Keaton, Kate Blanchett, Michael B. Jordan, Angela Basset, Forest Whitaker, Lawrence Fishburn, etc, etc....

If they have a Drax the Destroyer individual property helmed by Dave Bautista the idea may have some merit. But every actor that has been a primary player in the MCU of late has had solid acting chops at the very worst.

I don't know what makes anyone think that these $100 million properties are just throwaway items for these production groups these days. No, they're not going to dilute their product by just throwing a bunch of B-Listers at it and pretending like these are Sci-Fi Originals going direct to cable.

It took a ton of effort (and raw dumb luck) to get these movies considered along the lines of 'serious' fare and they aren't going to send some wooden blockhead like Gina Carano out there to lead their major 'female empowerment' property. There's a threshold level of acting skills that they expect, especially from their primary characters, and Gina doesn't get there.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I mean Mark Ruffalo is playing the hulk, FFS.

Dude's politics are annoying as hell but he's a respected actor playing a slobbering monster.

Any 'anchor' character has been portrayed by someone who is at least a solid actor. Evans was fantastic in Snowpiercer, Hemsworth has actually shown solid chops outside of the MCU, Cumberbatch, Johansson, Renner, Boseman, Saldana; even less 'refined' actors like Rudd, Pratt and Samuel L. Jackson have held their own outside of the MCU. Even the secondary characters tend to be playing down; Michael Douglas, Glenn Close, Sebastian Stan, Anthony Hopkins, Idris Elba, Josh Brolin, Benicio Del Toro, Mads Mikkelsen, Chiwetel Ojiofer, Rachel Adams, Kurt Russell, Michael Keaton, Kate Blanchett, Michael B. Jordan, Angela Basset, Forest Whitaker, Lawrence Fishburn, etc, etc....

If they have a Drax the Destroyer individual property helmed by Dave Bautista the idea may have some merit. But every actor that has been a primary player in the MCU of late has had solid acting chops at the very worst.

I don't know what makes anyone think that these $100 million properties are just throwaway items for these production groups these days. No, they're not going to dilute their product by just throwing a bunch of B-Listers at it and pretending like these are Sci-Fi Originals going direct to cable.

It took a ton of effort (and raw dumb luck) to get these movies considered along the lines of 'serious' fare and they aren't going to send some wooden blockhead like Gina Carano out there to lead their major 'female empowerment' property. There's a threshold level of acting skills that they expect, especially from their primary characters, and Gina doesn't get there.

Oh for ****'s sake, let's stop pretending that this comic book bullshit is Citizen Kane just because it has expensive CGI. This stuff is popular because the ritalin-chewing millennial zombies that it's aimed at love the 'splosions.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

And Gadot IS Wonder Woman now. No question about that.

We have a difference of opinion as to the IS of Wonder Woman.