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06-18-2018, 06:21 PM | #1696 |
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06-18-2018, 06:22 PM | #1697 |
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To me this feels like the Greinke trade. The Royals got assets that aren’t your prototypically attractive prospects, but instead of getting one prospect back, the Royals got several that could complement a full team rebuild.
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06-18-2018, 06:24 PM | #1698 |
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I could be wrong, but I seem to remember Cain, Escobar, and Jeffries (spelling?) being more highly regarded than these guys.
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06-18-2018, 06:25 PM | #1699 |
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06-18-2018, 06:27 PM | #1700 |
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I’m not sure they got an everyday player. Rutherford is a good defender and has plus speed, plus is a switch hitter.
Gutierrez is the biggest upside piece, 3Bwith good contact skills and some raw power. I like trading with the Nats because they have a great, deep system and develop players well... But would trade Kieboom for all 3 of those guys. Guessing that either wasn’t on the table or the Royals didn’t want all eggs in one basket. Also: if that’s the return Herrera fetches, Moustakas will be so disappointing I don’t know it’s even worth making a deal. |
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06-18-2018, 06:29 PM | #1701 | |
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It definitely feels like that. Escobar was two years removed from being a top 50 prospect whose shine was off. Cain was seen as an old org/4th OF type. Jeffress was a reliever with a big arm. |
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06-18-2018, 06:30 PM | #1702 |
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Perkins screams perfect outfielder for Kauffman Stadium.
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06-18-2018, 06:33 PM | #1703 |
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Gutierrez has 12 home runs in his entire minor league career (almost 5 years). Not really the power you want from 3B...
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06-18-2018, 06:38 PM | #1704 | |
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The thing with Zack was that people expected "more". We didn't get a "can't miss" ace or a power-hitter, but pieces that all had concerns that prevented them from being top prospects. Esky, while considered a defensive maestro (a welcome plus after a Yuni world), had concerns that his bat would never develop. Cain was relatively old for a prospect, and while he was highly regarded by scouts for his tools, those tools hadn't translated to the field and many were concerned that he was too fragile for a full season. Jeffress was a reliever that was one suspension from being banned from the MLB for life. And Odo was very young, many issues could have happened in his development, and at the time he didn't have an out pitch. These prospects were definitely more valuable than what we got back today, but many (analysts included) thought the Royals could have got back "more" for an ace like Greinke. We now know that the scouts found players who were pitch perfect for Kauffman (Fantastic speed, incredible defense, and contact hitters whose hits would more often fall with the K's spacious dimensions). This trade seems in line with what Moore looks for - and considering Soler's recent emergence (injury notwithstanding), I'll be at least hopeful that they can emerge in our system. |
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06-18-2018, 06:41 PM | #1705 |
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Man...These all seem like guys that may make the majors but may only be backup/utility type of dudes.
Once again shit like this is why ****ing up the draft will kill you, rebuilding your farm system with trades is essentially impossible now. It's not a great trade it's marginal but it's what you can get when no one will move on high level prospects anymore...so this is what you get. A shitty team with a high payroll with a bunch of guys no one will give anything of value for. Dayton Moore has really screwed the pooch with this farm system over the last 5 years. |
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06-18-2018, 06:43 PM | #1706 |
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Hopefully they can package Moose and Whit...gotta trade both
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06-18-2018, 06:46 PM | #1707 |
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@jorgecastillo: From someone who's seen Yohanse Morel: Pretty good arm. Has touched 95 with a good slider. He's 17 and has appeared in one game in the Dominican Summer League. Years away.
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06-18-2018, 06:46 PM | #1708 |
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06-18-2018, 06:47 PM | #1709 |
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Again, I hope Moore has the balls to trade someone like Merrifield. As some have mentioned, we may be even worse off than when Moore took over. We don't have any Butlers, Gordons, Greinkes, etc. in our system. Teams like Detroit and Chicago have been able to trade off valuable pieces like Verlander, Eaton, Sale, etc. for good hauls in recent years. We simply don't have much of value to trade, and I doubt Moore has the cajones to deal with the fan backlash from trading a Perez or Merrifield.
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