David Carr " Chiefs have higher upside with Mahomes"

[Deberg_1990]

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Yet, here we are looking at the same Kansas City Chiefs offense we've seen year after year.



The Chiefs have made three playoff appearances since Reid took over as head coach in 2013, losing once in the wild-card game (2013) and twice in the divisional round (2015, 2016). I'm a fan of Reid and quarterback Alex Smith, but with the way things are right now, they'll be sitting at home while Pittsburgh and New England duke it out on Championship Sunday.

I was Smith's teammate in San Francisco for one year (2010) and I got to know him well. When the weather starts playing a bigger factor in games late in the season, he's not a guy who can make tough throws in tough conditions. He's particular and wants the football a certain way. The colder the weather the firmer the ball and other conditions make the ball slippery. It's really hard to play in inclement weather as a quarterback, yet there are some guys -- like Brett Favre -- who could grab a ball out of a bucket of water or pile of mud and hurl it downfield. But everybody's not like that, including Smith. The conditions have to be right and the running game has to be there. As we've witnessed throughout his career, Smith isn't often going to transcend an offense and win a game on huge throws -- a frequent critique. He's just not that type of quarterback.

Early in the season, we saw Smith make those big plays and the Chiefs were rolling. We've seen downfield shots slowly digress as the season's gone on, a trend that goes back to at least the past two seasons. Since 2015, Smith has been far more effective throwing the ball down field (20-pus air yards) through the Chiefs' first eight games than he has in their final eight, completing more passes (42.1 percent vs. 36.7 percent) with a better TD-to-INT ratio (8:0 vs. 2:4) and a significantly higher passer rating (124.3 vs. 63.1).

Furthermore, since Smith's first year with the Chiefs in 2013, his passer rating on pass attempts of more than 20 yards has fallen off in the second half of the season.

September: 92.0
October: 111.1
November: 63.5
Dec.-Jan.: 68.8

The Chiefs' high-flying offense started to stall after the Steelers exposed a weakness in Week 6. Pittsburgh played more zone coverage and allowed them to throw the ball underneath by respecting the ability of Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce to make things happen downfield. In addition, the run game hasn't been as effective the last five games (the Chiefs are 1-4 in that stretch), averaging 81 rush yards per game. That's 70 yards per game fewer than Kansas City put up in its first five games (all wins). In my opinion, Smith needs the run game to improve or we'll likely see him continue to struggle throwing the ball downfield as this season progresses.

I know this sounds crazy, but there's a case for Patrick Mahomes, who played well in the preseason, to start in place of Smith as the playoffs near. The Chiefs gave up a third-rounder and next year's first to draft Mahomes, viewing him as their franchise quarterback of the future. He's a gunslinger who adds another dimension in the pass game when a) the weather worsens, and b) they're trying to go head to head with the AFC's best offenses.

It's definitely possible the Chiefs could find themselves in a Nathan Peterman situation, especially if they don't handle the timing of the switch well. We don't know. What I do know, though, is we can expect the same ending to the Chiefs' story if they don't change up their cast of characters.


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[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Well other than beating them five times in a row (including yesterday)

The game situations weren't alike at all

One qb had weapons every where, one had a couple wrs that hadn't played much, one rb who is actually a fb fur the majority of the game and a TE who had seemingly dropped more passes than he caught so far this season.


So I guess you are right, no two games are the same

[Pueblo Chieftan]

Originally Posted by Best22

Kirk Cousins scored 27 vs. Denver. At Home. With his starters

But Mahomes is a criticized for "barely beating" the Broncos?

Cousins was supported by his starting defense. Mahomes defense yesterday was a preseason lineup

And the excuses continue. The Chiefs are good, really good...at being overrated. Granted, I also bought into the hype a bit. You'd think with the talent they have on paper that they'd be better than this but apparently not.

I'm not sure what the problem is except maybe we've all been overrating said talent?

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

The game situations weren't alike at all

One qb had weapons every where, one had a couple wrs that hadn't played much, one rb who is actually a fb fur the majority of the game and a TE who had seemingly dropped more passes than he caught so far this season.


So I guess you are right, no two games are the same

FIVE in a row.

...try harder.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by stevieray

FIVE in a row.

...try harder.

you're silly.

[OKchiefs]

Originally Posted by stevieray

FIVE in a row.

...try harder.

Mahomes hit Robinson in the hands in the end zone and he dropped it.

You are one dumb SOB.

[Pueblo Chieftan]

Originally Posted by stevieray

FIVE in a row.

...try harder.

The thing is, you can be a "decent" team, and the top teams will make you look terrible.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Mahomes hit Robinson in the hands in the end zone and he dropped it.

WR's drop TD's all the time.

...even TE's like Kelce.

[Pueblo Chieftan]

Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Mahomes hit Robinson in the hands in the end zone and he dropped it.

KC has too many "ifs" on their offense

[MIAdragon]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

All Mahomes does is win. 1-0.

😂

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Pueblo Chieftan

KC has too many "ifs" on their offense

No one here gives a shit what some butthurt Donkey scum like you thinks.

[The Franchise]

Put Mahomes with the starters in that game yesterday and he torches that Broncos defense.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Dude will own Denver for years on end. It's crazy how we can easily score on their defense every time...even with 3rd stringers. 4 years and we've averaged near 30 a game on those frauds.

[Pueblo Chieftan]

Originally Posted by Spott

No one here gives a shit what some butthurt Donkey scum like you thinks.

I feel great. I don't wrap my self-esteem around the record of a football team...win or lose. Neither Should You. And you also need thicker skin and a better attitude in general. I'd really encourage you to work on that as much as possible.

Anyway, talent-wise, the Chiefs look good on paper, but there are question marks

[Pueblo Chieftan]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

Dude will own Denver for years on end. It's crazy how we can easily score on their defense every time...even with 3rd stringers. 4 years and we've averaged near 30 a game on those frauds.

Yes, on paper, perhaps. But nothing about this team says "really good" OR "AFC Champs" to me. The thing about this year's AFC West is that it's a been a complete toss-up. But for all intents and purposes, there's no way to accurately predict this division.

You could have drawn a slip of paper out of a hat and be just as likely as anyone else to pick the right team.

[Spott]

Originally Posted by Pueblo Chieftan

I feel great. I don't wrap my self-esteem around the record of a football team...win or lose. Neither Should You. And you also need thicker skin and a better attitude in general. I'd really encourage you to work on that as much as possible.

Anyway, talent-wise, the Chiefs look good on paper, but there are question marks

You can take your dumb ass back the the Mange where it belongs. You are only here to troll and piss on everyones parade because the Donkey’s season is over. As for you attitude suggestions, you can cram ‘em up your ass you butt****ing moron.