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Old 01-24-2019, 04:33 PM  
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Chiefs hire Steve Spagnuolo as new defensive coordinator

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Old 01-24-2019, 09:16 PM   #451
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The scheme change isn’t even nearly as big of a factor nowadays anyways. As others have noted, teams are in nickel and dime packages mostly anyways.

It’s about how he will adjust, prepare, develop talent, and motivate them as a unit. That’s where the difference must be made.
Good post. It still matters, base defense; you're in it about a third of the time on league average. but all the variations of nickel are probably more important. Lots of different personnel groupings fall into that category.

The biggest thing is that The Chiefs have been incredibly fundamentally unsound. Stupid penalties, poor tackling-hell, even with the hairbrained scheme, if we were just better at the basics that defense would've been 20-ish. And I still say it had enough high picks on it to have been a middle of the pack defense talent-wise.

The secondary appeared to be a poorly coached mess. The front seven was not disciplined. As much as everyone loves Dee Ford's sack totals, he can be blocked by a ****ing WR on a running play. He was total shit at setting the edge. Inexcusable.

There are still pieces here to build with, there's still some talent, and the team is a solid and consistent situation for Spags. He's shown he can thrive in that sort of situation, so I'm cautiously optimistic.
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:17 PM   #452
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You gonna play those guys all the snaps or rotate them? When you rotate them who you gonna have? Xavier William's? You can never have enough talent on the line especially when you've struggled against the run.
Well I won't disagree about talent on the line. That's why I was cool with drafting like we did last year. You could have all the Jaylen Ramsey's in the world but if your pass rush is non-existent you will not stop anyone. And if you can't stop the run, I don't care how great your secondary and pass rush are.....

We hear it every year on both sides of the ball...it all starts in the trenches
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:21 PM   #453
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Well I won't disagree about talent on the line. That's why I was cool with drafting like we did last year. You could have all the Jaylen Ramsey's in the world but if your pass rush is non-existent you will not stop anyone. And if you can't stop the run, I don't care how great your secondary and pass rush are.....

We hear it every year on both sides of the ball...it all starts in the trenches
If we were a tad better against the run and get a corner that can slow down Edelman we beat the Pat's by 3 scores
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:31 PM   #454
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All of these big contracts are either up, big paydays due, or it's the first year you could reasonably cut guys and absorb the cap hits.

We might well get ****ed on Berry, depending on this surgery business, although I have yet to see an official indication of the surgery.

Bailey's up, and was pricey. Sorensen was way overpaid but you can cut him June 1, Ford's gonna paid (but not by us, and we're going to get a decent pick) Houston's not going to get $21.1m. Looking at last year's draft and offseason, it literally looks like they were stacking up to make a change this offseason. I'm not saying they knew who the DC would be, but it would appear that they marked the spot in which a change could be done. Coupled with Andy's remarks about inside pressure being the key going forward. Get the new offense going with Mahomes in '18, flip the defense in '19.
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:38 PM   #455
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Bad bad bad hire.
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:39 PM   #456
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Speaks can play the 3 Tech too. It might even be ideal.
It'd be real funny if Speaks turned out to be Aaron Donald.
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:44 PM   #457
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Did CP already write off 2019 as disastrous?
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:47 PM   #458
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It'd be real funny if Speaks turned out to be Aaron Donald.
yeah right.
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:48 PM   #459
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Did CP already write off 2019 as disastrous?
1/2 of CP. The same 1/2 that thought Geno Smith was our QBOTF
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:53 PM   #460
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Did CP already write off 2019 as disastrous?
No I have wrote off our Defense as improving with hiring Rehash as the DC...

Its a stale zero impact hire that wont produce as we hoped..

Same as it ever was...
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:54 PM   #461
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1/2 of CP. The same 1/2 that thought Geno Smith was our QBOTF
And the other half is the half that thought Alex was the QB that this franchise needed...
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:54 PM   #462
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Bad bad bad hire.
Who would you have rather had?
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Old 01-24-2019, 09:59 PM   #463
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My point about not being able to trade Dee Ford is the Chiefs won’t have the luxury of leverage. Teams will know he doesn’t fit a 4-3, and possibly decide to keep bidding low or wait for release.

I’m still laughing because people think we have personal for 4-3, hint.... We dont
Complete nonsense that he doesn't fit a 4-3. There's little difference between a 4-3 under that Spags runs and the 3-4. The only person this is going to hurt is Ragland. Not Ford.

The only thing you should be laughing about is this garbage post you just put out there.

Do you think Ford never had to set an edge in the 3-4?
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Old 01-24-2019, 10:01 PM   #464
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No I have wrote off our Defense as improving with hiring Rehash as the DC...

Its a stale zero impact hire that wont produce as we hoped..

Same as it ever was...
Good god
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Old 01-24-2019, 10:02 PM   #465
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Complete nonsense that he doesn't fit a 4-3. There's little difference between a 4-3 under that Spags runs and the 3-4.

The only thing you should be laughing about is this garbage post you just put out there.

Do you think Ford never had to set an edge in the 3-4?
I don't know that ever actually DID set the edge.
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