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Life is changing..
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: NW Missouri
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Chiefs hire Steve Spagnuolo as new defensive coordinator
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Colorado Chief Fan
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Also, last year of his contract and he will need PAID! |
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#2042 | |
Hey Teacher!
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: land of maple syrup
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You ain’t gonna get one of the better MLBs out there. Plus, he’s a leader. Something this defense somewhat lacks. |
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#2043 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Yeah, if they said they'd give him to you for 29, man that would be tough to turn down.
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#2044 |
SuperBowl or bust
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BF Iowa
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No way would I trade a first for Wagner. He’s VERY good...but will need a new deal that he would have all the leverage on, is going to be winding down and I’d much rather use that first on a guy that will be around for the next 5-10 years while Mahomes gets into his prime.
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#2045 | |
BAMF!
Join Date: Nov 2007
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edit: Toss in Earl Thomas via FA and the defense would have a whole new culture and attitude. |
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#2046 |
21st Century Schizoid Fan
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: The Gates of Delirium
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I wonder if he can fix this:
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#2047 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Nov 2018
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Wagner will not get released. He’s a future HOF and the heart of the Defense. If he were to somehow get released idc what it takes. You sign the guy ASAP! Clark better go full Andy and make sure he doesn’t leave without signing with the Chiefs
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#2048 |
In Search of a Life
Join Date: Oct 2007
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Who said released?
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#2049 |
Hockey Town
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
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Wagner is still an all pro player, Seattle will not be moving on from him.
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#2050 | |
MVP
Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
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This. Also-it's too early to give up on Hitchens and double up a big salary at that position. Big money spots: CB, Pass rusher. Occasionally S. On defense, that's it. We need to draft and develop at those spots, fill in the other spots with mid round picks and aging, cheap vets. |
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#2051 | |
'Tis my eye!
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
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#2052 |
Rufus Dawes Jr.
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Say it with me kids....
We need young players on rookie contracts. We wither draft them or trade for them with a couple of years left like Fuller, Ragland, etc. |
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#2053 |
'Tis my eye!
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Chiefsplanet
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You have to have a few veterans in there somewhere. They don't have to be expensive but they have to be in the mix.
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#2054 |
Rufus Dawes Jr.
Join Date: Aug 2000
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Unsparing
Join Date: Aug 2008
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If you look at the roster as it stands on the books today, outside of Houston and Jones, we really don't have "stars" on this defense. Nor do we have a vast collection of solid contributors who can get the sun to shine on their asses from time to time while NOT losing games for us. *Note: I'm not bringing Berry in to this conversation because it's absolutely pointless in terms of him contributing anything of worth from here on out. So we've got one proven vet that you can flip a coin on in terms of whether or not he's going to have a good season, and a young ascending player. Beyond that we've got transitional question marks, hopefuls, and scrub-a-licious crap. So we're at a point right now where the necessary dynamic-shift can begin to take place, and it NEEDS to take place. Right now. Today. For those who would hope that the Chiefs, even if they HAD the cap room, were going to to purchase the services of a singular( or two ), extreme-dollar player(s) when they can use that money to acquire TWO( or more )dependable players, proven commodities, are out of their minds. First, we're in no position financially to go that route. And second, why would we even WANT to? This isn't Peyton Manning with a few good years left, and I don't want to end up like Denver or the post-Vermeil Chiefs either. We need to build this defense solidly and steadily, bringing in "big stars" only if they are willing to meet our terms and needs as a team. Doing our best to grab impact in the draft, and using FA wisely to acquire as many solid, dependable, and COACHABLE players as we can to plug holes and fill depth. And it's likely to go down like this anyway, because Reid is always going to be pushing to keep Mahomes surrounded with weapons( though personally I would invest in the best line I could while keeping no more than two impact guys receiving the football, and rotating out dependable, hungry young RB's ). To offense goes the glory in this league, right? Quote:
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Like most, I would prefer that my leaders come home-grown. Up through the draft, raised in the system, and 100% a Chief. But right now, in terms of active players, we're running thin. I'm wondering if it might be a good idea to bring in an established vet or two, on the tail end but still able to compete and contribute, for reasonable and short-term contracts? This would allow us to get Jones a couple more years in the system along with any promising players we might already have, and will hopefully draft. I'll be the first to admit it's not the ideal situation, but I'd rather go that route than picking up another Hitchens( or two ), and hoping your going to get a good/great player for 4 or 5 years at a high-dollar asking price. And besides, this would be temporary anyway. A stop-gap of two good guys who would have a better shot of competing for a ring in KC than at their current situation, and who could give us time to do more grooming. |
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