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Old 09-16-2019, 12:04 AM  
Ubeja Vontell Ubeja Vontell is offline
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The Black QB

Look at how things are going right now...

Highest paid....Russell Wilson
MVP....Patrick Mahomes
Number one draft pick...Kyler Murray
Leading Heisman candidate....Jalen Hurts

That ability to escape the pocket, extend plays, plant that...run? pass?...seed, is where things are heading. No backer ever has to worry about Eli, Rivers, Brady, Dalton, running the football. That can't be said about those mentioned above.

Lamar Jackson is what we see at Arizona(faster than Jackson), Oklahoma, Ohio State, and all over college/HS football nowadays, that mobile QB, a guy who can scoot 30 yards, extend plays.

The first black QB's were Willie Thrower, Marlon "Magician" Briscoe, James Harris, "Jefferson Street" Joe Gillum. (can't really count Fritz Pollard) but none of them made any impact.

It started with Doug Williams, Warren Moon and Randall Cunningham, they proved that yes blacks can play NFL QB.

My Top 10

1.Warren Moon....Oilers/Washington
2.Russell Wilson.....Seahawks/Wisconsin
3.Patrick Mahomes....Chiefs/Texas Tech
4.Donovan McNabb....Eagles/Syracuse
5.Steve McNair.....Titans/Alcorn
6.Randall Cunningham....Eagles/UNLV
7.Dak Prescott....Cowboys/Miss State
8.Cam Newton....Panthers/Auburn
9.Michael Vick...Falcons/Virginia Tech
10.Doug Williams...Buc's/Grambling

Today there are more black starting QB's than ever before.

Can't ignore....

DeShaun Watson
Kordell Steward
Daunte Culpepper
Jeff Blake
Rodney Peete
Vince Young
Colin Kaepernick
Lamar Jackson
Jacoby Bissett
Teddy Bridgewater
Tyrod Taylor
Andre Ware
Vince Evans
Akili Smith
Geno Smith

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Old 09-16-2019, 05:51 PM   #136
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:54 PM   #137
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First off it's never been about skin pigment, ok? It's about unique physical characteristics only found in those with roots to western Africa.

There are no white NFL cornerbacks not because of coaching but because of a lack of speed and quicks. NFL receivers can run a 4.3 40, so who can run with them, yep, other 4.3's, how many white cats run a 4.3?
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:58 PM   #138
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Yes, we get it. You think blacks are better.

Are we going to talk about athleticism of the QB position, which is interesting, or are we just going to talk about melanin levels of said QB's?

Cos that argument has been sitting on a roadside dead since the 90's.
There are no black QB's on a par with Brady/Montana/Rodgers/Brees/Marino/Peyton, so no I don't think we are better. What I think is QB's need to put more stress on a defense in todays game, and being able to move around, pick up that third and 7 with their legs is where the game is going and we see it with who is coming out of the NCAA, and the HS's.
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:59 PM   #139
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:00 PM   #140
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There are no black QB's on a par with Brady/Montana/Rodgers/Brees/Marino/Peyton, so no I don't think we are better. What I think is QB's need to put more stress on a defense in todays game, and being able to move around, pick up that third and 7 with their legs is where the game is going and we see it with who is coming out of the NCAA, and the HS's.
What we see are the natural consequence of 30 years of not discriminating against black QB's after decades of doing exactly that.

Obviously the numbers would level off. Black QB's in college and HS aren't new.

The QB position will always favor the guys who are the best at throwing the football. ALWAYS.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:35 PM   #141
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:45 PM   #142
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Old 09-16-2019, 07:23 PM   #143
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First off it's never been about skin pigment, ok? It's about unique physical characteristics only found in those with roots to western Africa.

There are no white NFL cornerbacks not because of coaching but because of a lack of speed and quicks. NFL receivers can run a 4.3 40, so who can run with them, yep, other 4.3's, how many white cats run a 4.3?
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Old 09-16-2019, 07:54 PM   #144
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Old 09-16-2019, 08:01 PM   #145
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My Top 10

1.Warren Moon....Oilers/Washington
2.Russell Wilson.....Seahawks/Wisconsin
3.Patrick Mahomes....Chiefs/Texas Tech
4.Donovan McNabb....Eagles/Syracuse
5.Steve McNair.....Titans/Alcorn
6.Randall Cunningham....Eagles/UNLV
7.Dak Prescott....Cowboys/Miss State
8.Cam Newton....Panthers/Auburn
9.Michael Vick...Falcons/Virginia Tech
10.Doug Williams...Buc's/Grambling
Russell Wilson and Warren Moon above Mahomes?
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:17 AM   #146
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Russell Wilson and Warren Moon above Mahomes?
Warren Moon is in the Hall of Fame. Easily over a third year QB, any third year QB.

Wilson walked right in and took over, Mahomes was baby sat for a season.

Wilson has done way too much, set too many NFL records, played in two SB's. You can take any QB you want Tom Brady, Montana, Marino, Rodgers, etc etc and compare what they did in the first 8 seasons vs what Wilson has done, yep...Russell Wilson.

No way in hell you can put a guy with less than two years as a starter over a HOFer and a guy like Russell Wilson.
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:22 AM   #147
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Jimmy the Greek much?
Jimmy the Greek totally nailed it, it was 100% like he said.

That trip over here was horrendous and only the strong survived it. We start there.

There have been about a dozen sub 10.00 sprinters from Nigeria, all of Asia/white Europe combined about half of that.
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:25 AM   #148
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:32 AM   #149
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Old 09-17-2019, 12:34 AM   #150
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