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Old 05-09-2021, 08:10 PM  
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Just got my first pellet smoker. Any tips?

Honestly, I wasn't even looking for one, but I was at Sam's Club on Saturday and their demo company was selling the Z-grill700-2F. The guy pitched it to me and I was sold. The fact that he had one left in the box, and 2 already built displays left, one which I was able to buy, closed the deal. The price was great too. It was only $399. They have the same model on the company website, on sale, for $529.
Anyway. I brought it home and immediately burned it in and grilled some steaks and pork chops on it, which turned out great. I plan to smoke a brisket or rubs on it this weekend. I watched some videos on YouTube. One guy smoked his ribs using the 4--1-1 method. Smoke 4 hours at 225, wrap in foil and add water. Cook for another hour, remove the foil, add BBQ sauce and smoke for another hour. I've never tried that method. Sounds like a short cut to get them tender in half the time. Do any of you like that method?
I know that you guys are the kings of all things BBQ, so any pointers would be greatly appreciated. It sounds like this is going to make smoking a breeze. Fill the hopper, set the PID, and go. Is it really that easy with pellet smokers?
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Old 05-10-2021, 03:57 PM   #76
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I plan to smoke a brisket or rubs on it this weekend. I watched some videos on YouTube. One guy smoked his ribs using the 4--1-1 method. Smoke 4 hours at 225, wrap in foil and add water. Cook for another hour, remove the foil, add BBQ sauce and smoke for another hour. I've never tried that method. Sounds like a short cut to get them tender in half the time. Do any of you like that method?
I prefer 3-2-1 or 3-1-1 (babybacks) but I use chicken broth or applejuice instead of water.
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Old 05-10-2021, 04:05 PM   #77
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I prefer 275F for pork anything but like all things BBQ related YMMV depending on your setup and your personal preferences. Obviously there's some best practices, but you can use the same cut of meat at the same temp for the same duration on 2 different cookers and the results will vary.

Just tinker around with yours to find what works best to your liking and enjoy the process.
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Old 05-10-2021, 09:38 PM   #78
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Old 05-10-2021, 10:16 PM   #79
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This is great so that the rib meat doesn't get caught in your dentures
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Old 05-10-2021, 10:44 PM   #80
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Meat, fire, salt and pepper = Burp

Does it matter what it’s cooked on?

All kidding aside....I love learning from Malcom Reed “How to BBQ right” website.
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Old 05-10-2021, 11:16 PM   #81
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Get one of these to use exclusively for cleaning out the ash in the firebox.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Bucket-H...0100/202017218
I recommend a water trap when sucking ash. Learned it from this hillbilly.

Don’t send this shit through your vacuum. And more importantly don’t ****ing breathe it when you clean the filter. Water is your friend, folks.

Bucket, duct tape, extra hose, win.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ins...famp_page=true
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Old 05-10-2021, 11:37 PM   #82
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I thought the whole idea of pellets was for lazy ****s, now water traps for vacuums?

I guess there's a reason it's called a "Homer" bucket
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Old 05-11-2021, 07:18 AM   #83
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I thought the whole idea of pellets was for lazy ****s, now water traps for vacuums?

I guess there's a reason it's called a "Homer" bucket
Are you ever not a raging ****ing twat?

Look, dude. I have never not once vacuumed out my pellet grill. But if you have to ever vacuum ashes you should use a water trap.

I use a water trap because I have a waste oil furnace in the shop. But if you want to bring out your shop vac and suck that shit out of the furnace, be my ****ing guest.

And I have no clue if the models these guys are buying have the shut down procedure that burns out the firebox. If they don't they probably need vacuum out the firebox when they change the foil.

But do you man, condescend away. Just understand that you are being a raging ****ing twat.
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Old 05-11-2021, 09:26 AM   #84
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That's the one I got, except that I got the 2F, which is this year's model. It has a PID and 2 probes. I got it at Sam's, but this link at Amazon has the best pictures and description.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...pd_rd_wg=4cwbZ
Oh, that's nice. I like the ones that have the built in temp probes. Mine didn't have that but luckily I already had one that I got for cheap on one of Amazon's big sales days.
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Old 05-11-2021, 09:27 AM   #85
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Damn modern conveniences. Why the other day the grandkid was asking me why didn’t I buy ribs from a grocery store instead of butchering hogs in the backyard and making my suburban neighbors mad at me.
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Old 05-11-2021, 09:40 AM   #86
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Love my Grilla, but it won't put out near the heavy smoke as a traditional offset. I like being able to start something the night before and not have to worry about the temp. Just like coffee, you get diminishing returns on cost and effort after a certain point.

Quality of cut=temp control>prep>type of wood and so on...

I will say that one of the biggest things to get used to for me is that different smokers have different air flow. I feel like a pellet grill gives a better flavor at lower temperatures. If i try to smoke at a higher temp the the smoke doesn't penetrate as easily. I've adjusted a lot of my cooks accordingly. Ie. pork shoulder on an offset I would be a slightly higher temp, but I knock it down a bit for the pellet. My opinion ymmv.
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Old 05-11-2021, 09:43 AM   #87
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I think we all know the answer to that.

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Look, dude. I have never not once vacuumed out my pellet grill. But if you have to ever vacuum ashes you should use a water trap.

I use a water trap because I have a waste oil furnace in the shop. But if you want to bring out your shop vac and suck that shit out of the furnace, be my ****ing guest.

And I have no clue if the models these guys are buying have the shut down procedure that burns out the firebox. If they don't they probably need vacuum out the firebox when they change the foil.

But do you man, condescend away. Just understand that you are being a raging ****ing twat.
My Zgrill has a shut down procedure that burns out the firebox and I always use it. I guess I assumed that his does, too.
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Old 05-11-2021, 09:49 AM   #88
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I think we all know the answer to that.



My Zgrill has a shut down procedure that burns out the firebox and I always use it. I guess I assumed that his does, too.
I'm sure most of the newer ones do, but I don't know.

Bottom line, if you're going to vacuum ashes, of any kind, use a water trap. And cooper is a jackass.
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Old 05-11-2021, 10:13 AM   #89
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I'm sure most of the newer ones do, but I don't know.

Bottom line, if you're going to vacuum ashes, of any kind, use a water trap. And cooper is a jackass.
My Traeger has this feature of the burnout shut down setting.
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Old 05-11-2021, 01:16 PM   #90
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My Traeger has this feature of the burnout shut down setting.
Same. I just vacuum it out the next session after it's had a chance to cool off for a few days.
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