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Old 04-29-2021, 11:06 AM  
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Packaging both 2nds
Do you think Veach will package both 2's in a move up to say 34 with the Jets for one guy he covets, or does he stand pat?

If you think he does move up, who's it for?
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Old 04-29-2021, 12:02 PM   #16
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You have to think we might net some Comp picks for Watkins, Tanoh, Bell, Wis or Reiter, though those might be offset by Reed, Thuney, Blythe acquisitions (does Reed count since he was cut?).
I wouldn't expect any Comp Picks for the Chiefs next year.

Kpassagnon, Wisniewski and Reiter didn't even sign anywhere this offseason and even if they had, it would have been for Vet Minimum. Thuney and Reed alone far surpass the $5 million Watkins received from Baltimore.

Plus, is doesn't matter whether or not a player was cut or a free agent. If the Chiefs signed him to a $6 million dollar deal, from my understanding, it's still part of the comp pick formula.
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Old 04-29-2021, 12:02 PM   #17
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Old 04-29-2021, 12:37 PM   #18
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I think we stand pat.

I have a hunch there are a few guys in the top 65 Veach really likes.
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Old 04-29-2021, 12:38 PM   #19
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I think we stand pat.

I have a hunch there are a few guys in the top 65 Veach really likes.
I think its a great place to get some contributors or several years.
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Old 04-29-2021, 12:39 PM   #20
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I wouldn't expect any Comp Picks for the Chiefs next year.

Kpassagnon, Wisniewski and Reiter didn't even sign anywhere this offseason and even if they had, it would have been for Vet Minimum. Thuney and Reed alone far surpass the $5 million Watkins received from Baltimore.

Plus, is doesn't matter whether or not a player was cut or a free agent. If the Chiefs signed him to a $6 million dollar deal, from my understanding, it's still part of the comp pick formula.
Reed doesn't count against us because the Seahawks cut him. Right now Watkins, KPass, and Wilson's contract's qualify... But it is safe to assume that Wilson's contra t is too small to make the final cut off so I'm disregarding it. It doesn't matter how large Thuney's contract was in the calculations... He just offsets one of our qualifying contracts (Watkins). Right now, the Chiefs are slotted to get 1 pick for KPass and it's likely a 7th. KPass' contract barely qualifies, so if there are more qualifying contracts than slotted comp picks his will be one of the first cut.

So... TLDR: Chiefs currently should be getting a 2022 7th round comp pick but it might go away.
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Old 04-29-2021, 12:47 PM   #21
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I think its a great place to get some contributors or several years.
Having two picks at the end of the 2nd is like gold in this draft. They could go DB, WR, DE, or OL and still get quality players that could contribute immediately.
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Old 04-29-2021, 01:02 PM   #22
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Old 04-29-2021, 01:19 PM   #23
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I wouldn't expect any Comp Picks for the Chiefs next year.

Kpassagnon, Wisniewski and Reiter didn't even sign anywhere this offseason and even if they had, it would have been for Vet Minimum. Thuney and Reed alone far surpass the $5 million Watkins received from Baltimore.

Plus, is doesn't matter whether or not a player was cut or a free agent. If the Chiefs signed him to a $6 million dollar deal, from my understanding, it's still part of the comp pick formula.
KPass signed with the Saints
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Old 04-29-2021, 01:21 PM   #24
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I'd prefer to stand pat, because brown and two seconds is a fantastic place to be sitting as a team that just went to a superbowl. However i would consider moving to 40 if it looks like a guy will be there. And when i say "A guy" I mean a posistion of value and a high ceiling guy. You can always get creative and recoup that second next year by trading back in what should be a massive draft class.
Totally agree.

I'd really rather not, but then Veach has bigger balls than I do, and I'm man enough to admit it.
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Old 04-29-2021, 01:24 PM   #25
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Do you think he’d trade picks from next year to move up with one of the seconds?
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Old 04-29-2021, 01:46 PM   #26
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Old 04-29-2021, 01:54 PM   #27
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KPass signed with the Saints
What in the world are they doing down there?

They're going to be lucky to reach 8-8 this season.
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What in the world are they doing down there?

They're going to be lucky to reach 8-8 this season.
Payton got into the painkillers cabinet again.
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Old 04-29-2021, 02:08 PM   #29
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Totally agree.

I'd really rather not, but then Veach has bigger balls than I do, and I'm man enough to admit it.
This is the wildcard. Logic says dont do it. Veachs vieny, oversized, over pressured scrotum thats seeping testosterone into the air and polluting the war room air quality, just cant be factored properly.
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Old 04-29-2021, 02:41 PM   #30
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The only guys I’d package both 2’s for:

Kwity Paye
Jaycee Horn
Patrick Surtain
Jamar Chase
Kyle Pitts
JOK
Parsons
D. Smith
J.Waddle
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