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Frazod · 10-16-2017, 09:19 PM

Anybody else watching this? Amazing show. The main characters are based on John Douglas and Robert Ressler, the first FBI agents to gain insight into the minds of serial killers by interviewing them in prison (Douglas was the basis for Scott Glenn's character in Silence of the Lambs). Set in the late 70s. I'm three episodes in and really enjoying it.

**Nzoner** · 10-26-2017, 08:34 AM

Glad to see all the positive remarks.I love these kind of shows and will be starting this in the next day or so.

**Nzoner** · 10-27-2017, 07:13 AM

Well had a do nothing day yesterday so I got on a roll and watched the entire season 1.

Thumbs up all the way around,I thought the acting was very good and the guy that played Kemper was creepy as hell.I thought Shepherd nailed it as well as a believable dickhead.Can't say enough about the soundtrack either as those tunes were the hits of my teen years,especially liked the use of Zeppelin's In The Light.

Lastly was Wendy....I think I'm in love and wouldn't have minded a special scene with her

Not a very in depth review but don't want to spoil anything,all I can say is the series is top notch and now I wonder how long I have to wait for season 2.

**Baby Lee** · 10-29-2017, 03:07 AM

Finally getting around to giving this a decent airing. Looking forward to it a lot.

Had the fortune of Robert Ressler teaching for a couple of weeks in my Abnormal Psychology class at Truman. The instructor, Dr. Costa, was one of the earlier students under him at Quantico and brought him in for a mini-residency. This was just a year or so after Silence of the Lambs came out and Ressler was kind of barnstorming universities to gin up interest in forensic psych.

He had a ton of first-person face-to-face interview anecdotes, Dahmer, Bundy, Gacy, etc. And this was before 'profiling' was part of every network crime drama on earth.

**mdchiefsfan** · 10-29-2017, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Finally getting around to giving this a decent airing. Looking forward to it a lot.

Had the fortune of Robert Ressler teaching for a couple of weeks in my Abnormal Psychology class at Truman. The instructor, Dr. Costa, was one of the earlier students under him at Quantico and brought him in for a mini-residency. This was just a year or so after Silence of the Lambs came out and Ressler was kind of barnstorming universities to gin up interest in forensic psych.

He had a ton of first-person face-to-face interview anecdotes, Dahmer, Bundy, Gacy, etc. And this was before 'profiling' was part of every network crime drama on earth.

That had to be awesome. I’m hoping to delve into some of this in persuit of my Criminology degree.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-29-2017, 12:39 PM

Fincher wants four more seasons for a total of five

vailpass · 10-29-2017, 03:18 PM

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Fincher wants four more seasons for a total of five

Reminds me of the recent South Park episode

http://dcdr.me/2kIXBNL

keg in kc · 10-30-2017, 12:03 PM

Started watching it on a whim yesterday and ended up binging all ten episodes. Really good.

unlurking · 10-30-2017, 01:21 PM

On episode 8. Excellent so far, but very creepy.

**Baby Lee** · 10-31-2017, 04:02 AM

There's been criticism of the music cues in this series, but I've enjoyed them a great deal.

The Psycho Killer tag to the unit's sequestration to the basement might have been a little on the nose, but it tonally carried the irony of an upbeat song to a depressing development in their careers, while suggesting that the fact that they still had careers at all and were getting additional liberty to pursue their hunches was a little triumphant as well.

But the best one was the Boomtown Rats to close episode 6. Kind of puts a button on the escalation of the characters' investment in their work [Torv buying a house to be closer to the FBI] and the escalation of the crazy they are fighting.

https://www.snopes.com/music/songs/mondays.asp

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-02-2017, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Finally getting around to giving this a decent airing. Looking forward to it a lot.

Had the fortune of Robert Ressler teaching for a couple of weeks in my Abnormal Psychology class at Truman. The instructor, Dr. Costa, was one of the earlier students under him at Quantico and brought him in for a mini-residency. This was just a year or so after Silence of the Lambs came out and Ressler was kind of barnstorming universities to gin up interest in forensic psych.

He had a ton of first-person face-to-face interview anecdotes, Dahmer, Bundy, Gacy, etc. And this was before 'profiling' was part of every network crime drama on earth.

I had no idea that Sal Costa, adviser to the Sig Tau goat****ers, was at Quantico. Definitely makes sense why he had that Psychology of Serial Killers class.

**Baby Lee** · 11-02-2017, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I had no idea that Sal Costa, adviser to the Sig Tau goat****ers, was at Quantico. Definitely makes sense why he had that Psychology of Serial Killers class.

Did they change the name of it? IIRC, it was just called Abnormal Psych when I took it.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-02-2017, 12:28 AM

I thought it was good, but not great. Some of it is because I think the long arc of the story is more interesting than the structure of the individual episodes, standard whole is greater than the sum of the parts stuff. One thing that does bother me is how Groff plays Ford. It makes sense that his character could become increasingly arrogant to the point of putting himself in personal and professional harm, but if you watch him within episodes he'll vacillate from naive schoolboy to dark quasi sociopath without so much as a cue, like he's unsure what to do with the character. And it's not the obvious moments, like when he's working Kemper, or Brudos, or others for info. It will happen in small scenes where he's standing in a hallway looking outside at Devier, and it really takes me out of the scene. Other times, he can bounce between earnestly confident and cowardly, but that's more a function of inconsistent writing.

There's also little reason why he gets back together with Debbie other than they just wanted to put her in two more episodes.

Overall, I found it enjoying, but it's more of a good show than a great one, IMO.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-02-2017, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Did they change the name of it? IIRC, it was just called Abnormal Psych when I took it.

I know it was a 400 level psych class. More of a special topic that was almost impossible to get into unless you had senior status and a good SSN when it was time to register. My roommate took it. I'll have to ask him what it was like.

**Baby Lee** · 11-02-2017, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I thought it was good, but not great. Some of it is because I think the long arc of the story is more interesting than the structure of the individual episodes, standard whole is greater than the sum of the parts stuff. One thing that does bother me is how Groff plays Ford. It makes sense that his character could become increasingly arrogant to the point of putting himself in personal and professional harm, but if you watch him within episodes he'll vacillate from naive schoolboy to dark quasi sociopath without so much as a cue, like he's unsure what to do with the character. And it's not the obvious moments, like when he's working Kemper, or Brudos, or others for info. It will happen in small scenes where he's standing in a hallway looking outside at Devier, and it really takes me out of the scene. Other times, he can bounce between earnestly confident and cowardly, but that's more a function of inconsistent writing.

There's also little reason why he gets back together with Debbie other than they just wanted to put her in two more episodes.

Overall, I found it enjoying, but it's more of a good show than a great one, IMO.

Two things treated similarly I had very different narrative reactions to.

I really like how they weaved in the

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stuff without comment. Gave a sense of the gravity of their work in real time, and I trust it will pay off well in future season.

Didn't so much like how they introduced the

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storyline. Making it seem more like a crisis of confidence and a general 'WTF' moment than anything.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 11-02-2017, 12:35 AM

Agreed on your first spoiler, had no idea on your second. Were there cues they dropped, or is that just from his bio?

10-16-2017, 09:19 PM
Frazod WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS Frazod's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000	Netflix: Mindhunter Anybody else watching this? Amazing show. The main characters are based on John Douglas and Robert Ressler, the first FBI agents to gain insight into the minds of serial killers by interviewing them in prison (Douglas was the basis for Scott Glenn's character in Silence of the Lambs). Set in the late 70s. I'm three episodes in and really enjoying it.
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10-26-2017, 08:34 AM	#16
Nzoner a haw haw haw Nzoner's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MIZZOU	Glad to see all the positive remarks.I love these kind of shows and will be starting this in the next day or so.
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10-27-2017, 07:13 AM	#17
Nzoner a haw haw haw Nzoner's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: MIZZOU	Well had a do nothing day yesterday so I got on a roll and watched the entire season 1. Thumbs up all the way around,I thought the acting was very good and the guy that played Kemper was creepy as hell.I thought Shepherd nailed it as well as a believable dickhead.Can't say enough about the soundtrack either as those tunes were the hits of my teen years,especially liked the use of Zeppelin's In The Light. Lastly was Wendy....I think I'm in love and wouldn't have minded a special scene with her Not a very in depth review but don't want to spoil anything,all I can say is the series is top notch and now I wonder how long I have to wait for season 2.
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10-29-2017, 03:07 AM	#18
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000	Finally getting around to giving this a decent airing. Looking forward to it a lot. Had the fortune of Robert Ressler teaching for a couple of weeks in my Abnormal Psychology class at Truman. The instructor, Dr. Costa, was one of the earlier students under him at Quantico and brought him in for a mini-residency. This was just a year or so after Silence of the Lambs came out and Ressler was kind of barnstorming universities to gin up interest in forensic psych. He had a ton of first-person face-to-face interview anecdotes, Dahmer, Bundy, Gacy, etc. And this was before 'profiling' was part of every network crime drama on earth. Last edited by Baby Lee; 10-29-2017 at 03:13 AM..
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10-29-2017, 12:39 PM	#20
DaneMcCloud Supporter DaneMcCloud's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA	Fincher wants four more seasons for a total of five
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10-30-2017, 12:03 PM	#22
keg in kc oxymoron keg in kc's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever	Started watching it on a whim yesterday and ended up binging all ten episodes. Really good.
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10-30-2017, 01:21 PM	#23
unlurking MVP unlurking's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2003	On episode 8. Excellent so far, but very creepy.
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10-31-2017, 04:02 AM	#24
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000	There's been criticism of the music cues in this series, but I've enjoyed them a great deal. The Psycho Killer tag to the unit's sequestration to the basement might have been a little on the nose, but it tonally carried the irony of an upbeat song to a depressing development in their careers, while suggesting that the fact that they still had careers at all and were getting additional liberty to pursue their hunches was a little triumphant as well. But the best one was the Boomtown Rats to close episode 6. Kind of puts a button on the escalation of the characters' investment in their work [Torv buying a house to be closer to the FBI] and the escalation of the crazy they are fighting. https://www.snopes.com/music/songs/mondays.asp
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11-02-2017, 12:28 AM	#27
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! 'Hamas' Jenkins's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2006	I thought it was good, but not great. Some of it is because I think the long arc of the story is more interesting than the structure of the individual episodes, standard whole is greater than the sum of the parts stuff. One thing that does bother me is how Groff plays Ford. It makes sense that his character could become increasingly arrogant to the point of putting himself in personal and professional harm, but if you watch him within episodes he'll vacillate from naive schoolboy to dark quasi sociopath without so much as a cue, like he's unsure what to do with the character. And it's not the obvious moments, like when he's working Kemper, or Brudos, or others for info. It will happen in small scenes where he's standing in a hallway looking outside at Devier, and it really takes me out of the scene. Other times, he can bounce between earnestly confident and cowardly, but that's more a function of inconsistent writing. There's also little reason why he gets back together with Debbie other than they just wanted to put her in two more episodes. Overall, I found it enjoying, but it's more of a good show than a great one, IMO.
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11-02-2017, 12:35 AM	#30
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! 'Hamas' Jenkins's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2006	Agreed on your first spoiler, had no idea on your second. Were there cues they dropped, or is that just from his bio?
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