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Old 05-06-2021, 03:03 PM  
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The Chiefs 5 Main Qualities in Pre-Draft Evaluation
A nugget from Nate Taylor's article in the Athletic:

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The Chiefs believe each of their six draft picks — linebacker Nick Bolton, center Creed Humphrey, Kaindoh, Gray, receiver Cornell Powell and guard Trey Smith — can make their opening-day 53-man roster and provide quality depth. The team’s belief came from each prospect possessing the five main qualities it desires most in the pre-draft evaluation period: intelligence, durability, production, consistency and leadership.

For example, Gray was one of Duke’s team captains (leadership), a player who was named to the Academic All-ACC team (intelligence). He played in 48 games during his college career (durability) and was effective as a receiver (production) while dropping just three passes out of 107 catchable targets during his career (consistency), according to Pro Football Focus. Coach Andy Reid was intrigued by Gray’s versatility. Last season, Gray recorded 237 snaps in the slot, 139 on the line at the traditional tight end spot and 120 in the backfield.

The Chiefs are eager to see Gray learn and play alongside star tight end Travis Kelce.

“You just watch the kid run routes and separate,” Bradway said of Gray. He has a lot of traits that translate to the next level. Even when he’s not getting the ball, you can see him get open. He’s very savvy, very instinctive. He showed up that first (game) in 2019 against Alabama, and from there he’s shown the ability to play against high-level competition and produce.”
This will be helpful in future years as we do mocks and narrow in on possible targets.
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Old 05-06-2021, 03:13 PM   #2
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Sounds like Ryan Poles was one of his primary sources for the article, based on some quotes and insights.
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Old 05-07-2021, 09:26 AM   #3
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They obviously don't weight them consistently from round to round.

Because Kaindoh has big question marks about durability and Powell wasn't consistently productive.

I honestly don't think this is all that helpful in predicting who they pick beyond maybe the first 2 or 3 rounds.
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Old 05-07-2021, 07:08 PM   #4
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Veach is not consistent on drafting for any of the mentioned traits in the article.

Sometimes he drafts a dumbass with little production, no consistency, but insane athletic traits. Sometimes it's in the 2nd rounds, sometimes the 4th round.

Veach is "like a box of chocolates..."
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Old 05-07-2021, 07:23 PM   #5
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Veach is not consistent on drafting for any of the mentioned traits in the article.

Sometimes he drafts a dumbass with little production, no consistency, but insane athletic traits. Sometimes it's in the 2nd rounds, sometimes the 4th round.

Veach is "like a box of chocolates..."
Can’t help but think you’re referring to Gay here and it’s the 2nd time I’ve seen you call him a dumbass. What’s up with that?

Do you have anything to back that up? Anything at all?

An already inexperienced player had trouble getting on the field in year 1 after a shortened offseason and that makes him an idiot?
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Old 05-07-2021, 07:38 PM   #6
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Can’t help but think you’re referring to Gay here and it’s the 2nd time I’ve seen you call him a dumbass. What’s up with that?

Do you have anything to back that up? Anything at all?

An already inexperienced player had trouble getting on the field in year 1 after a shortened offseason and that makes him an idiot?
Speaks was a dumbass.

Hardman had some issues learning the playbook early on and still hasn't polished up his routes and become more dynamic and still has some lapses in lining up correctly.

Gay, well his wonderlic begs some questions and he made dumbass decisions in college.

So yeah. I do.
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Speaks was a dumbass.

Hardman had some issues learning the playbook early on and still hasn't polished up his routes and become more dynamic and still has some lapses in lining up correctly.

Gay, well his wonderlic begs some questions and he made dumbass decisions in college.

So yeah. I do.
I’m really not interested in anything other than football intelligence. Being a kid making some mistakes and a Wonderlic score don’t really tell me anything about that.

For instance, his Wonderlic was better than Ray Lewis.

2 of the guys you mentioned were drafted knowing that they were inexperienced and would take some time to develop/learn.

Speaks is definitely a huge dumbass off the field. That’s for sure.
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Old 05-08-2021, 02:01 AM   #8
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I call bullshit on the intelligence attribute, with everything considered in the past
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Hardman had some issues learning the playbook early on and still hasn't polished up his routes
This kind of shit cracks me up.

As if you have any insight into that. You pulled that shit out of your ass, lets face it.
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This kind of shit cracks me up.

As if you have any insight into that. You pulled that shit out of your ass, lets face it.
Hardman said it himself. I'll let you look it the **** up, it's out there on the internet. Go get it, moron.
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