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Old 09-16-2019, 12:04 AM  
Ubeja Vontell Ubeja Vontell is offline
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The Black QB

Look at how things are going right now...

Highest paid....Russell Wilson
MVP....Patrick Mahomes
Number one draft pick...Kyler Murray
Leading Heisman candidate....Jalen Hurts

That ability to escape the pocket, extend plays, plant that...run? pass?...seed, is where things are heading. No backer ever has to worry about Eli, Rivers, Brady, Dalton, running the football. That can't be said about those mentioned above.

Lamar Jackson is what we see at Arizona(faster than Jackson), Oklahoma, Ohio State, and all over college/HS football nowadays, that mobile QB, a guy who can scoot 30 yards, extend plays.

The first black QB's were Willie Thrower, Marlon "Magician" Briscoe, James Harris, "Jefferson Street" Joe Gillum. (can't really count Fritz Pollard) but none of them made any impact.

It started with Doug Williams, Warren Moon and Randall Cunningham, they proved that yes blacks can play NFL QB.

My Top 10

1.Warren Moon....Oilers/Washington
2.Russell Wilson.....Seahawks/Wisconsin
3.Patrick Mahomes....Chiefs/Texas Tech
4.Donovan McNabb....Eagles/Syracuse
5.Steve McNair.....Titans/Alcorn
6.Randall Cunningham....Eagles/UNLV
7.Dak Prescott....Cowboys/Miss State
8.Cam Newton....Panthers/Auburn
9.Michael Vick...Falcons/Virginia Tech
10.Doug Williams...Buc's/Grambling

Today there are more black starting QB's than ever before.

Can't ignore....

DeShaun Watson
Kordell Steward
Daunte Culpepper
Jeff Blake
Rodney Peete
Vince Young
Colin Kaepernick
Lamar Jackson
Jacoby Bissett
Teddy Bridgewater
Tyrod Taylor
Andre Ware
Vince Evans
Akili Smith
Geno Smith

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Old 02-16-2020, 06:51 PM   #286
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DC are smart they will find a way to stop mobile QB.
I don't think so, just look at what Wilson has been doing for 8 seasons.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:52 PM   #287
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Toto Africa most influential blues song ever

Convince me otherwise
Talk to me about them blues, if I see you know the music well talk.

Give me a good example of Piedmont blues.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:53 PM   #288
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Well I sort of agree, but then it gets very dicey when you then consider that things other then physical stature and ability can also be genetically determined.
I'm not scared.

Obviously there are outliers but:

OVERALL:

Black people are physically superior.

Asians are mentally superior.

White and Hispanic people aren't superior at either but a little of both.

Come at me bro.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:54 PM   #289
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Wilson
Jackson
Murray
Watson
Prescott
Newton

....have been running all their life, that isn't going to change.
The point is that defenses are going to adjust to better stop athletic qbs and will go back to focusing on the run next year. Apart from Russell and mahomes, none of them were even close to the same level as Brady, brees, and Rodgers last year. This year the pocket passer took a big hit but I doubt that's a trend that will continue. Those guys are going to have to prove themselves with their arm and apart from Russell, all of those guys are not elite if you take their legs away. They might norm into more of a cam Newton who was effective enough throughout his career which bought them one big run, but was mostly second to third tier most of his career.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:57 PM   #290
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I'm not scared.

Obviously there are outliers BUT:

OVERALL:

Black people are physically superior.

Asians are mentally superior.

White and Hispanic people are a combination of both.

Come at me bro.
Pretty much nailed it, why people have to play silly games about the obvious...?????
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:57 PM   #291
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Talk to me about them blues, if I see you know the music well talk.

Give me a good example of Piedmont blues.
The Forgotten Apostrophe demo EP, you’re turn.
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Old 02-16-2020, 06:58 PM   #292
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Pretty much nailed it, why people have to play silly games about the obvious...?????
Because nowadays nobody is allowed to hurt anyone else's feelings.
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:04 PM   #293
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A mobile QB is good in regular season. Get back to me when one wins in the playoffs. Wilson is the only one I can think of lately that has won a super Bowl
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:05 PM   #294
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The Forgotten Apostrophe demo EP, you’re turn.
If you were to write a book about them blues you start by talking about the slave trade, it all starts there.

In 1920 Mamie Smith recorded "Crazy Blues", it sold so well the record companies started looking for similar talent, which brought us Bessie Smith and Ma Rainey probably the two most important figures in them blues, their recording were so moving, so penetrating, that they changed things.

Now what happened next?


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Old 02-16-2020, 07:08 PM   #295
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:09 PM   #296
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I'm not scared.

Obviously there are outliers but:

OVERALL:

Black people are physically superior.

Asians are mentally superior.

White and Hispanic people aren't superior at either but a little of both.

Come at me bro.
However, if you tread any further into these waters ... I would leave it alone. No need to “come at” anyone bro.
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:12 PM   #297
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A licky boom boom down
Here ya go man, my fav post war blues tune.

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Old 02-16-2020, 07:12 PM   #298
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However, if you tread any further into these waters ... I would leave it alone. No need to “come at” anyone bro.
You missed the 'I'm not scared' part...
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Old 02-16-2020, 07:33 PM   #299
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A mobile QB is good in regular season. Get back to me when one wins in the playoffs. Wilson is the only one I can think of lately that has won a super Bowl
Patrick Mahomes isn't a mobile QB?

490 rushing yards in his last two seasons.

Eli 567 yards in 16 seasons, he isn't mobile.

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Old 02-16-2020, 07:54 PM   #300
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A mobile QB is good in regular season. Get back to me when one wins in the playoffs. Wilson is the only one I can think of lately that has won a super Bowl
Mahomes as well. Led the team in rushing for 2 of the 3 playoff games. In the Super Bowl against a great defense, he had 44 yards rushing until he did a bunch of kneel-down plays to run clock at the end of the game. His legs were a pretty big factor in that Super Bowl. Extended plays and avoided sacks, etc.
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