Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs The truth about our losses
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Reply
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-22-2021, 11:52 AM  
Coochie liquor Coochie liquor is offline
Bolton gonna knock you out
 
Coochie liquor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Free Vybz Kartel
The truth about our losses
After a little research and going back to last season, including the Super Bowl we have 5 losses when Mahomes plays (obviously not counting week 17 Chargers game). Almost all of the games we have lost in that time frame have one major thing in common. Here’s the data...

Chiefs/Faders - Clete Blakeman
Chiefs/Bucs - Carl Cheffers
Chiefs/Ravens - Clete Blakeman
Chiefs/Bills - Carl Cheffers
Chiefs/Chargers - Sean Hocculi

We are losing the games reffed by those horrible officials.
Posts: 20,390
Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 12:14 PM   #16
Coochie liquor Coochie liquor is offline
Bolton gonna knock you out
 
Coochie liquor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Free Vybz Kartel
Quote:
Originally Posted by JudasRising20 View Post
The Buffalo game did not come down to bad officiating. They made a terrible call against Frank Clark right after they called a phantom holding against Mitch Morse. The Chiefs were already down 11 by that point. They played like dogshit in that game on both sides of the ball.
Definitely true, but still goes with the numbers. And I’m sure if they needed to step in to get them a win, they would have done so. But we couldn’t get out of our own way so was no need for it.
Posts: 20,390
Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 12:39 PM   #17
ThaVirus ThaVirus is offline
Settle this once and forever
 
ThaVirus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaFace View Post
To me, this doesn't necessarily scream "biased refs," but it does make me wonder about the slight differences in how refs call games. In other words, if we're a team that likes to get a little grabby on defense (which we have been historically), refs who call games more tightly will naturally be a problem for us.

It sucks that there is that kind of variability in how games are called, but I don't expect it to get any better.
I hope our coaching staff pays attention to these sorts of things and bakes that info into our gameplan/approach.

Hell, the Rams pay a guy specifically to keep McVay from walking too far onto the field. We could definitely use a guy to look into which crews are more prone to calling specific types of penalties and use it to our advantage.
Posts: 44,146
ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 12:42 PM   #18
Pasta Little Brioni Pasta Little Brioni is offline
Consuming CP souls
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: U.S.A.
...and the league and Vegas love it. It's how they steer games. They aren't "horrible ". They are doing exactly what they are paid to do.
Posts: 68,296
Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 03:24 PM   #19
dannybcaitlyn dannybcaitlyn is offline
Supporter
 
dannybcaitlyn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
The Carl crew is the worst. I thought they were supposed to send the best crew to the Super Bowl!
Posts: 6,984
dannybcaitlyn has disabled reputation
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 03:27 PM   #20
FloridaMan88 FloridaMan88 is offline
Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses
 
FloridaMan88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Miami, FL
Two of the worst "Roughing the Passer" calls you'll ever see were both called against the Chiefs by Clitoris Blakeman and Cheffers' crews.

The AFC Championship Game Chris Jones hand near Brady's head and the bullshit Frank Clark call in the Buffalo game.
Posts: 37,988
FloridaMan88 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FloridaMan88 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FloridaMan88 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FloridaMan88 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FloridaMan88 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FloridaMan88 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FloridaMan88 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FloridaMan88 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FloridaMan88 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FloridaMan88 is obviously part of the inner Circle.FloridaMan88 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 05:09 PM   #21
Chief Roundup Chief Roundup is offline
Admitted Planet Junky
 
Chief Roundup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor View Post
After a little research and going back to last season, including the Super Bowl we have 5 losses when Mahomes plays (obviously not counting week 17 Chargers game). Almost all of the games we have lost in that time frame have one major thing in common. Here’s the data...

Chiefs/Faders - Clete Blakeman
Chiefs/Bucs - Carl Cheffers
Chiefs/Ravens - Clete Blakeman
Chiefs/Bills - Carl Cheffers
Chiefs/Chargers - Sean Hocculi

We are losing the games reffed by those horrible officials.
You need to stop licking whatever it is you are licking. Coochie doesn't have this effect on brains.

Chiefs vs Bills
Chiefs 4 turnovers Bills 0
Chiefs 7 penalties for 55 yards Bills 10 penalities for 103 yards

Chiefs vs Ravens
Chiefs 2 turnovers Ravens 2
Chiefs 5 penalities for 46 yards Ravens 8 penalties for 55 yards

Chiefs vs Chargers
Chiefs 4 turnovers Chargers 0
Chiefs 6 penalties for 56 yards Chargers 8 penalties for 50 yards

The obvious reason we lost is the turnovers.
Posts: 19,189
Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
 Thumbs Up 3 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 05:17 PM   #22
tredadda tredadda is offline
Three-Pat
 
tredadda's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Colorado Springs
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup View Post
You need to stop licking whatever it is you are licking. Coochie doesn't have this effect on brains.

Chiefs vs Bills
Chiefs 4 turnovers Bills 0
Chiefs 7 penalties for 55 yards Bills 10 penalities for 103 yards

Chiefs vs Ravens
Chiefs 2 turnovers Ravens 2
Chiefs 5 penalities for 46 yards Ravens 8 penalties for 55 yards

Chiefs vs Chargers
Chiefs 4 turnovers Chargers 0
Chiefs 6 penalties for 56 yards Chargers 8 penalties for 50 yards

The obvious reason we lost is the turnovers.
This. The only thing beating the Chiefs is the turnovers. We get that under control and we are very tough to beat. This team should be at minimum 5-1 right now. Mahomes has more INTs in six games this year than he had all last year.

With the SB, we stood little chance. Mahomes had turf toe, we started backups on the OLine against an elite Dline, and our receivers forgot how to catch. While there were questionable calls made, eventually those factors would have caught up to us even had the refereeing been better.
Posts: 16,958
tredadda has disabled reputation
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 05:21 PM   #23
ModSocks ModSocks is offline
Needs more middle fingers
 
ModSocks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup View Post
You need to stop licking whatever it is you are licking. Coochie doesn't have this effect on brains.

Chiefs vs Bills
Chiefs 4 turnovers Bills 0
Chiefs 7 penalties for 55 yards Bills 10 penalities for 103 yards

Chiefs vs Ravens
Chiefs 2 turnovers Ravens 2
Chiefs 5 penalities for 46 yards Ravens 8 penalties for 55 yards

Chiefs vs Chargers
Chiefs 4 turnovers Chargers 0
Chiefs 6 penalties for 56 yards Chargers 8 penalties for 50 yards

The obvious reason we lost is the turnovers.
This post is a thread killer.
Posts: 64,163
ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.ModSocks is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 05:46 PM   #24
Chief Roundup Chief Roundup is offline
Admitted Planet Junky
 
Chief Roundup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
I do want to mention that the refs mentioned in the OP are some of the worst refs in the league with a bias against the Chiefs in years past.
Posts: 19,189
Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 05:59 PM   #25
Coochie liquor Coochie liquor is offline
Bolton gonna knock you out
 
Coochie liquor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Free Vybz Kartel
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief Roundup View Post
You need to stop licking whatever it is you are licking. Coochie doesn't have this effect on brains.

Chiefs vs Bills
Chiefs 4 turnovers Bills 0
Chiefs 7 penalties for 55 yards Bills 10 penalities for 103 yards

Chiefs vs Ravens
Chiefs 2 turnovers Ravens 2
Chiefs 5 penalities for 46 yards Ravens 8 penalties for 55 yards

Chiefs vs Chargers
Chiefs 4 turnovers Chargers 0
Chiefs 6 penalties for 56 yards Chargers 8 penalties for 50 yards

The obvious reason we lost is the turnovers.
While I fully agree with you on turnovers, we’re definitely killing ourselves with them. But it’s easy to look at the amount of penalties and say it wasn’t on that. But it’s about the timing of the penalty, or the no call.

Chargers game they call DPI on the Chiefs during the LA go ahead TD drive (that should have been either OPI, or too high to catch). Then obvious no call DPI on the Hail Mary when both Reek and Kelce were being absolutely mugged in the EZ.

Yes, Clyde fumbling away the Ravens game was the reason we lost, but just so happens that one of 2 refs that have been reffing during 4 of the 5 we’ve lost in the last 2 seasons.

Do you feel the penalties were called fairly in the SB? Even players who were watching said it felt dirty watching what they were doing to the Chiefs. How about the AFCCG against Brady and the Pats? Fairly reffed??

Bills game we did ourselves in. No denying that.

I’m with you in the feeling that if we don’t turn the ball over, it’s difficult to beat us. But the refs have found a way to even the odds when necessary. And not all the refs, but specifically Clete ****ing Blakeman, and Carl ****ing Cheffers.
Posts: 20,390
Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.Coochie liquor is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 06:33 PM   #26
Bump Bump is offline
YOU take YOUR seat
 
Bump's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
sure it's just a coincidence
Posts: 32,122
Bump is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bump is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bump is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bump is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bump is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bump is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bump is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bump is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bump is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bump is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bump is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 06:35 PM   #27
Chief Roundup Chief Roundup is offline
Admitted Planet Junky
 
Chief Roundup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Coochie liquor View Post
While I fully agree with you on turnovers, we’re definitely killing ourselves with them. But it’s easy to look at the amount of penalties and say it wasn’t on that. But it’s about the timing of the penalty, or the no call.

Chargers game they call DPI on the Chiefs during the LA go ahead TD drive (that should have been either OPI, or too high to catch). Then obvious no call DPI on the Hail Mary when both Reek and Kelce were being absolutely mugged in the EZ.

Yes, Clyde fumbling away the Ravens game was the reason we lost, but just so happens that one of 2 refs that have been reffing during 4 of the 5 we’ve lost in the last 2 seasons.

Do you feel the penalties were called fairly in the SB? Even players who were watching said it felt dirty watching what they were doing to the Chiefs. How about the AFCCG against Brady and the Pats? Fairly reffed??

Bills game we did ourselves in. No denying that.

I’m with you in the feeling that if we don’t turn the ball over, it’s difficult to beat us. But the refs have found a way to even the odds when necessary. And not all the refs, but specifically Clete ****ing Blakeman, and Carl ****ing Cheffers.
Like you said and I concurred with those refs have a definite bias against the Chiefs. Refs are like the choreographers of the NFL. They are not meant to determine anything but they are meant to help and keep it as entertaining as possible when not obviously making things as "competitive" as possible.
The biggest point is that without the turnovers the refs would have had little to no effect on the outcome of those games.
Posts: 19,189
Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.Chief Roundup has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 06:54 PM   #28
KChiefs1 KChiefs1 is offline
I’m a Mahomo!
 
KChiefs1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Mid-Missouri
I need to know the refs every week so I can prepare my anus for the royal ****ing the Chiefs are going to be getting.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Posts: 54,038
KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.KChiefs1 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 06:58 PM   #29
JohnnyHammersticks JohnnyHammersticks is offline
MVP
 
JohnnyHammersticks's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Chandler AZ
The truth about our losses is that we turned the ball over too much in them.

/Thread
Posts: 12,755
JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.JohnnyHammersticks is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-22-2021, 09:14 PM   #30
bringbackmarty bringbackmarty is offline
Gonna go back in time....
 
bringbackmarty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Kansas City
Turnovers and the timing of said turnovers. I felt the Clyde fumble that cost us early in the season was on Andy, you don't run Clyde that close to the goal line in that situation. Mahomes has cost us a game, combined with the defense. Yes referees play into it and don't help. Game is rigged at all levels. I've seen refs call phantom shit or keep their flags in their pocket in ymca flag for no reason other than to make the game close, same thing with high school, college, professional. It always comes down to money and making the game competitive when you can. If you lose by three it's so much better than being blown out and both sides are happy. Most refs will even a game out after taking abuse from the coach/team that wasn't prepared. We've all seen enough football to know this is true, all levels.
Posts: 3,033
bringbackmarty would the whole thing.bringbackmarty would the whole thing.bringbackmarty would the whole thing.bringbackmarty would the whole thing.bringbackmarty would the whole thing.bringbackmarty would the whole thing.bringbackmarty would the whole thing.bringbackmarty would the whole thing.bringbackmarty would the whole thing.bringbackmarty would the whole thing.bringbackmarty would the whole thing.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:40 AM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.