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Old 10-25-2020, 07:50 PM  
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It’s official: Pats were always Tom Brady. Not Bill Belichick.
Bill falls to 2-4 without Brady.

Brady goes to 5-2 with Tampa, turning them into a title contender immediately.

Tampa had the #1 SRS (points above avg team) in the NFL of +13.1. And that was before they trashed the Fighting Chuckies today.
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:04 PM   #16
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I guess you can't blame Cam because that would be racist, huh?
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:06 PM   #17
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Its really hard to say with NE having players opt out and Brady going to a stacked TB team. I will say that they have both greatly benefitted from each other.

I do believe the "Patriot Way" only works with a HOF QB, without Brady they can't afford to add bargain bin talent and expect to dominate. On that same note I would be more impressed if Brady had been successful on a far less talented team.
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:06 PM   #18
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Behind every great QB is a coach willing to take the credit.

The Bucs are loaded with talent. It's what happens when you consistently draft near the top of each round for years.

Brady has lots of experience and a ton of talent around him. He always had an above average defense. The Patriots are missing a big chunk of players and Cam isn't going to take them anywhere; he has the physical skills, just none of the mental ones.
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:09 PM   #19
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As of today it looks like Brady. Tampa has a pretty well rounded team overall.

Also BB took a significant downgrade at QB.
Newton is a huge downgrade. If he cant get me 100+ yds moving the chains on the ground hes useless at QB for me.
At one point mid 2nd qtr or later he was 3-6, 30 yards, 1 INT.
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:09 PM   #20
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Yes it’s official after six games

If the Pats are bad for Three years straight maybe the arguments can begin.

It’s not like Brady went to a shit team with no talent and they’re all of the sudden good. Bucs have had talent but Winston is volatile. Did we forget that like half the Pats D opted out?


Yeah like Hightower and I'd say I'm glad he opted out but this is not a typical year to draw conclusions. I'd say Hightower is the bigger loss to the Patriots than Tom Brady and teams didn't get their offseason sessions in that would have been paramount for players going to new teams.

**** Patriots and **** Tom Brady I hope they both lose outright.
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:09 PM   #21
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He hasn’t drafted worth a shit for a while either
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:13 PM   #22
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This is going to kill Hoodie’s legacy.
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Trevor Lawrence to the Pats?
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Old 10-25-2020, 08:16 PM   #24
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They're actually both really good at their jobs.
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It was booth of them. I think Brady could have won 1-2 rings with any other decent franchise.

I can't say the same thing about Belicheck because the QB is so important. But for them to win 6, it isn't one or the other, but the combination of both (along with cheating!).
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They're actually both really good at their jobs.
2-4 is good?

Losing record without Brady is good?
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This is going to kill Hoodie’s legacy.
If they play like this next year I would agree. He will get a pass this year because of COVID opt outs and no preseason.
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Nah. Bill>Brady.

All you have to do is imagine Brady going to the Jets/Browns/Bucs or whoever when he was drafted and you have your answer. Bill created the culture and the lockerroom in NE, brought in a 7th round gangly game-manager QB and forged him into a good QB. Hell, he did the same thing with Bledsoe before Brady.
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It was booth of them. I think Brady could have won 1-2 rings with any other decent franchise.

I can't say the same thing about Belicheck because the QB is so important. But for them to win 6, it isn't one or the other, but the combination of both (along with cheating!).
Neither wins six without the other one.
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Nah. Bill>Brady.

All you have to do is imagine Brady going to the Jets/Browns/Bucs or whoever when he was drafted and you have your answer. Bill created the culture and the lockerroom in NE, brought in a 7th round gangly game-manager QB and forged him into a good QB. Hell, he did the same thing with Bledsoe before Brady.
Bucs were 5-11 and 7-9 last two years.
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