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Old 07-22-2021, 11:36 AM  
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:13 PM   #376
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The problem is what level of "having the virus" counts? If someone was asymptomatic but tested positive, will they still have lasting immunity? It seems not based on a lot of the reports of people being infected twice. IE - one of the infections was usually asymptomatic.

So now you say the person had to get sick. Ok how sick? It gets into grey areas.
This is an excellent question.

The answer: it does not matter if you’re symptomatic or not. Viral loads are the same either way. Symptoms vs no symptoms is a difference in immune response, not virus load.
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:15 PM   #377
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I actually just emailed Kendra Findley, the administer of Public Health and Epidemiology for Greene County (Springfield, Missouri is in Greene) and here’s what she said:

“Two new studies just came out that demonstrated immunity from the vaccine is stronger/more potent than from natural immunity (recovery from illness). Neutralizing antibody levels were 25 times higher for vaccinated than for those with natural immunity. Now, for people with both natural immunity and the vaccination, their neutralizing antibodies were 100 times higher than natural infection alone. It seemed to suggest that those who have recovered from illness can really benefit from vaccination.”
Antibodies aren't all of immunity.

I'll take real world data over narrow lab measurements.

BTW, there are lab results that show the superiority of tcells produced by natural immunity over vaccines as well.
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:16 PM   #378
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Nobody who was previously infected should be getting vaccinated until the rest of world has a chance to get vaccinated.
This is a flimsy pretext not to vaccinate. We live in America, and every American has had a chance to get vaccinated.

Refusing to vaccinate now does not get a vaccine to a Ghanan any faster.
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:18 PM   #379
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Antibodies aren't all of immunity.

I'll take real world data over narrow lab measurements.

BTW, there are lab results that show the superiority of tcells produced by natural immunity over vaccines as well.
Do you accept medical research or not?

Because you just quoted some to me.
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:20 PM   #380
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Do you accept medical research or not?

Because you just quoted some to me.
Sure. But real world data trumps measuring one aspect of immunity in the lab.

The fact that the Pharmacy bros are touting

MOAR antibodies tells me all I need to know.
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:25 PM   #381
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Sure. But real world data trumps measuring one aspect of immunity in the lab.

The fact that the Pharmacy bros are touting

MOAR antibodies tells me all I need to know.
I mean this respectfully: you don’t fully know what you’re talking about, when you say “in the lab” as if that means it’s separated from the real world or humanity.

There’s no way to test the studies my post cited without human and human subjects being involved, in a lab or in the field.
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:27 PM   #382
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Real world data out of everywhere but Israel shows highly efficient vaccines

So we’re good
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:36 PM   #383
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:37 PM   #384
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I mean this respectfully: you don’t fully know what you’re talking about, when you say “in the lab” as if that means it’s separated from the real world or humanity.

There’s no way to test the studies my post cited without human and human subjects being involved, in a lab or in the field.
Just because you measure more of something doesn't mean it grants you stronger immunity.

I can show you a similar lab test showing Tcells from natural immunity is superior to the vaccine .

Tcells are long term protection. That's why even the Pharmaceutical companies are saying their 2 jabs aren't enough.

Real world data out of Israel points to this as well.

Natural superior. Will last longer.
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:41 PM   #385
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The studies out of Israel are just measuring antibody levels iirc. They are doing any cellular immunity checks.

We know the vaccines produce a strong cellular immune response as well
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Old 07-23-2021, 03:42 PM   #386
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They’re preparing 3rd inoculations for immunocompromised and elderly
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Old 07-23-2021, 04:11 PM   #387
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I actually just emailed Kendra Findley, the administer of Public Health and Epidemiology for Greene County (Springfield, Missouri is in Greene) and here’s what she said:

“Two new studies just came out that demonstrated immunity from the vaccine is stronger/more potent than from natural immunity (recovery from illness). Neutralizing antibody levels were 25 times higher for vaccinated than for those with natural immunity. Now, for people with both natural immunity and the vaccination, their neutralizing antibodies were 100 times higher than natural infection alone. It seemed to suggest that those who have recovered from illness can really benefit from vaccination.”


Imagine being this concerned and obsessed about COVID. Why are you doing shit like this when you’ve been vaccinated?

Live your ****ing life dude. JFC.
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