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Couch-Potato · 05-02-2022, 11:38 AM

Chiefs have a competitive WR room, I'm curious what you guys think...

Are we done, or will we add a vet FA?
What's the WR depth chart look like this year?
What roles will these guys play?
What do you expect next year's WR depth chart to look like?

Couch-Potato · 05-02-2022, 11:48 AM

Personally, I think we're done adding WRs. If it were me though, I'd be highly intrigued with OBJ if the Rams don't sign him and I'd be willing to see what Julio's got left in the tank on a prove-it deal.

Depth = JuJu, Moore, Hardman, MVS, Gordon, Coleman, Ross, Fountain, etc...

JuJu & Moore play the slot, Hardman and MVS run the deep routes. Gordon, Goleman, & Ross are all fliers with upside and I hope at least one develops into their true potential!

Next year I could see us adding a RD 1 WR and resigning JuJu + Moore, and Ross.

DJ's left nut · 05-02-2022, 11:48 AM

I don't think it's all that competitive.

It goes 4 deep before you get into ST specialists and roster chaff.

And the 'set' players have defined skill-sets rather than a real broad array of abilities.

It's tolerable. I would say it's roughly league average and that's fine given our QB and OL. The passing game will be strong still.

But the WR room itself is fairly mediocre, IMO.

Couch-Potato · 05-02-2022, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I don't think it's all that competitive.

It goes 4 deep before you get into ST specialists and roster chaff.

And the 'set' players have defined skill-sets rather than a real broad array of abilities.

It's tolerable. I would say it's roughly league average and that's fine given our QB and OL. The passing game will be strong still.

But the WR room itself is fairly mediocre, IMO.

Anything we can do to improve?

Would you consider Toney from NYG for next year's 3rd?

ModSocks · 05-02-2022, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I don't think it's all that competitive.

It goes 4 deep before you get into ST specialists and roster chaff.

And the 'set' players have defined skill-sets rather than a real broad array of abilities.

It's tolerable. I would say it's roughly league average and that's fine given our QB and OL. The passing game will be strong still.

But the WR room itself is fairly mediocre, IMO.

Agreed. And bolded the real key here.

Our receiver group right now are a bunch specialists really.

JuJu is the highlight of our revamped WR room. When he was signed the first thing i said was, "he can be a nice piece, but extremely disappointing if he's THE piece".

JPH83 · 05-03-2022, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Anything we can do to improve?

Would you consider Toney from NYG for next year's 3rd?

I would absolutely take him for a 4th and quite probably a 3rd. He's more a YAC guy than an obvious do it all, elite all-rounder, imo. But man, he DOES have elite skills. If we got him at that value, even with all the character flags, I'd be much happier with our WR room.

At the moment it feels like we're willing one of Gordon, Coleman or Ross to become a top player again, and that seems a reach.

Couch-Potato · 05-09-2022, 08:17 AM

What are the top 5 WR Cores in the NFL? Where do our guys stack up against the rest of the AFC West?

Top 5
-Bucs
-SEA
-PIT
-LAC
-MIA

I think we're deeper but with a lower ceiling than the rest of the WR Core's in the AFC this year.

**Buehler445** · 05-09-2022, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

What are the top 5 WR Cores in the NFL? Where do our guys stack up against the rest of the AFC West?

Top 5
-Bucs
-SEA
-PIT
-LAC
-MIA

I think we're deeper but with a lower ceiling than the rest of the WR Core's in the AFC this year.

cinci needs to be on there IMO.

**The Franchise** · 05-09-2022, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

What are the top 5 WR Cores in the NFL? Where do our guys stack up against the rest of the AFC West?

Top 5
-Bucs
-SEA
-PIT
-LAC
-MIA

I think we're deeper but with a lower ceiling than the rest of the WR Core's in the AFC this year.

Why Seattle? Can you name anyone outside of Metcalf and Lockett on that team?

You're leaving out teams like the Bengals and Eagles.

Couch-Potato · 05-09-2022, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

cinci needs to be on there IMO.

Cincy, sure. How about the Cardinals? Maybe the Vikes or Rams.

kccrow · 05-09-2022, 02:28 PM

The Rams are up there too with Kupp, Robinson, and Jefferson. Would also not discount the Cowboys.

I guess, in the grand scheme of things, I don't care. All I really care about is if the Chiefs have the horses to get it done.

For starters, we should ditch any expectations someone is going to step in and replace what Tyreek was immediately because it isn't happening.

What you do have is, arguably, the best TE in the NFL. JuJu has shown he can be an upper-echelon #2 in the past, so maybe he reclaims his former glory. There's little doubt JuJu is better than anything that trotted out there last season. Hardman is definitely a good slot. Maybe not a top 5 slot, but he's probably in that next tier.

The questions lie, really, in what's going to happen at the Z. Can Hardman slide in and have a youngster take over the slot? Can Moore take right over and be effective? What exactly is MVS bringing to the Chiefs beyond "deep threat?"

All told, if you get the same production out of JuJu, MVS, and Moore as you got out of Tyreek, Pringle, and Robinson then you have a solid situation.

The latter group put up:
111-1239-9
42-568-5
25-264-3
---------------
178-2071-17

If MVS can get you his normal 550-ish, then can Juju get you 900 and Moore 600? I'd think it's attainable goals for all those guys.

It does feel like you'll have 3 capable WRs on the field at all times between the 4. Ross is a wildcard that could add even more.

O.city · 05-09-2022, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I don't think it's all that competitive.

It goes 4 deep before you get into ST specialists and roster chaff.

And the 'set' players have defined skill-sets rather than a real broad array of abilities.

It's tolerable. I would say it's roughly league average and that's fine given our QB and OL. The passing game will be strong still.

But the WR room itself is fairly mediocre, IMO.

"Don't sign Tyreek, make Pat turn good WR's into great ones".

Bitches about who we got.

JohnnyHammersticks · 05-09-2022, 04:20 PM

In my opinion our WR room is already better than it was last year. Not even sure how it's debatable. Do we have anyone as dynamic as Tyreek? Obviously not unless Moore develops way faster and to a higher degree than expected and/or Ross regains and surpasses the flash he showed as a Freshman. But in terms of effectiveness and depth I don't even know how you could argue that we're not already in better shape at WR than we've been at any time in Mahomes's career.

Couch-Potato · 05-10-2022, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

In my opinion our WR room is already better than it was last year. Not even sure how it's debatable. Do we have anyone as dynamic as Tyreek? Obviously not unless Moore develops way faster and to a higher degree than expected and/or Ross regains and surpasses the flash he showed as a Freshman. But in terms of effectiveness and depth I don't even know how you could argue that we're not already in better shape at WR than we've been at any time in Mahomes's career.

I think part of the problem is that our new #1 WR was Pittsburg's #3 WR last year.

kccrow · 05-10-2022, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

I think part of the problem is that our new #1 WR was Pittsburg's #3 WR last year.

I don't know about that, honestly. The Steelers spread the ball around pretty equally to all of Johnson, Claypool, and Smith-Schuster in 2020 and started to in 21 before JuJu got hurt.

05-02-2022, 11:38 AM
Couch-Potato MVP Couch-Potato's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2015	WR Room? Chiefs have a competitive WR room, I'm curious what you guys think... Are we done, or will we add a vet FA? What's the WR depth chart look like this year? What roles will these guys play? What do you expect next year's WR depth chart to look like?
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05-02-2022, 11:48 AM	#2
Couch-Potato MVP Couch-Potato's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2015	Personally, I think we're done adding WRs. If it were me though, I'd be highly intrigued with OBJ if the Rams don't sign him and I'd be willing to see what Julio's got left in the tank on a prove-it deal. Depth = JuJu, Moore, Hardman, MVS, Gordon, Coleman, Ross, Fountain, etc... JuJu & Moore play the slot, Hardman and MVS run the deep routes. Gordon, Goleman, & Ross are all fliers with upside and I hope at least one develops into their true potential! Next year I could see us adding a RD 1 WR and resigning JuJu + Moore, and Ross. Last edited by Couch-Potato; 05-02-2022 at 11:53 AM..
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05-09-2022, 08:17 AM	#7
Couch-Potato MVP Couch-Potato's Avatar Join Date: Jan 2015	What are the top 5 WR Cores in the NFL? Where do our guys stack up against the rest of the AFC West? Top 5 -Bucs -SEA -PIT -LAC -MIA I think we're deeper but with a lower ceiling than the rest of the WR Core's in the AFC this year. Last edited by Couch-Potato; 05-09-2022 at 08:47 AM..
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05-09-2022, 02:28 PM	#11
kccrow MVP kccrow's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan	The Rams are up there too with Kupp, Robinson, and Jefferson. Would also not discount the Cowboys. I guess, in the grand scheme of things, I don't care. All I really care about is if the Chiefs have the horses to get it done. For starters, we should ditch any expectations someone is going to step in and replace what Tyreek was immediately because it isn't happening. What you do have is, arguably, the best TE in the NFL. JuJu has shown he can be an upper-echelon #2 in the past, so maybe he reclaims his former glory. There's little doubt JuJu is better than anything that trotted out there last season. Hardman is definitely a good slot. Maybe not a top 5 slot, but he's probably in that next tier. The questions lie, really, in what's going to happen at the Z. Can Hardman slide in and have a youngster take over the slot? Can Moore take right over and be effective? What exactly is MVS bringing to the Chiefs beyond "deep threat?" All told, if you get the same production out of JuJu, MVS, and Moore as you got out of Tyreek, Pringle, and Robinson then you have a solid situation. The latter group put up: 111-1239-9 42-568-5 25-264-3 --------------- 178-2071-17 If MVS can get you his normal 550-ish, then can Juju get you 900 and Moore 600? I'd think it's attainable goals for all those guys. It does feel like you'll have 3 capable WRs on the field at all times between the 4. Ross is a wildcard that could add even more.
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05-09-2022, 04:20 PM	#13
JohnnyHammersticks MVP JohnnyHammersticks's Avatar Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chandler AZ	In my opinion our WR room is already better than it was last year. Not even sure how it's debatable. Do we have anyone as dynamic as Tyreek? Obviously not unless Moore develops way faster and to a higher degree than expected and/or Ross regains and surpasses the flash he showed as a Freshman. But in terms of effectiveness and depth I don't even know how you could argue that we're not already in better shape at WR than we've been at any time in Mahomes's career.
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05-02-2022, 11:48 AM	#3
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards DJ's left nut's Avatar Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo	I don't think it's all that competitive. It goes 4 deep before you get into ST specialists and roster chaff. And the 'set' players have defined skill-sets rather than a real broad array of abilities. It's tolerable. I would say it's roughly league average and that's fine given our QB and OL. The passing game will be strong still. But the WR room itself is fairly mediocre, IMO.
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