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Old 11-12-2019, 02:36 PM  
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Need CP expertise - Selling a home: Do you get an appraisal before listing your home?

Or do you go with what your agent recommends?

We have an agent who is very experienced but I'm just not sure what I should do here. She has done a comparison analysis on our home and similar homes that have sold recently in the area. She gave me the three addresses and what they sold for and they were right in line with what she said. Her recommended asking price is about 7-14% less than what I thought it should be. We have done some things to the home to make it perhaps a little more valuable than when the last appraisal was done 5 years ago. Her recommendation was 7% less than that appraisal 5 years ago.

Should I spend the money to have a new appraisal? Keep in mind that what she said was just a recommendation. She did say that we could ask for more. But she said we should be willing to go down on price if it doesn't sell. I do want to get the house sold quickly as we have already contracted to buy a new house on the 25th and I really don't want to have to pay 2 mortgages for very long.
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Old 11-12-2019, 08:42 PM   #46
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As long as you’re in some kind of neighborhood or area with similar homes that have sold in the last 90-180 days, then the comps your agent showed you should be sufficient. About the only time I recommend an appraisal prior to market is if comps are hard to come by or you’re trying to sell a unique property or one where you have over-improved it compared to your neighbors.
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Old 11-12-2019, 09:41 PM   #47
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Skip all the bullshit and put it up for auction
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:01 PM   #48
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As long as you’re in some kind of neighborhood or area with similar homes that have sold in the last 90-180 days, then the comps your agent showed you should be sufficient. About the only time I recommend an appraisal prior to market is if comps are hard to come by or you’re trying to sell a unique property or one where you have over-improved it compared to your neighbors.
True story. Just bought a house and the appraisal was all based on comparable property in the same area with the price negotiated for repairs.
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Old 11-12-2019, 10:54 PM   #49
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Nope. Buyers will end up getting an appraisal that will determine the true value of the home unless they are paying cash.
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just check zillow.com

what you think its worth doesnt matter. what the sellers appraiser thinks its worth will determine how much money a buyer can borrow
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Old 11-12-2019, 11:20 PM   #50
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just check zillow.com

what you think its worth doesnt matter. what the sellers appraiser thinks its worth will determine how much money a buyer can borrow
I'm not sure how much you're borrowing even matters.We put $144k down on a $223k house and it still had to appraise out at the selling price. Makes no damn sense to me.
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Old 11-13-2019, 03:56 AM   #51
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To get it sold as quickly as possible but also get the value that it is worth. Don't want to leave thousands sitting on the table.
This is EVERYONE'S goal.

If you already have a house you've contracted for and are going to be paying a 2nd mortgage, don't jerk around and pay months of extra payments.

Price it at market - a few thousand under to get action and possible bidding on it.

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Old 11-13-2019, 07:14 AM   #52
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Those comparison homes always drive me nuts. There are no homes in my area that compare to ours. Our comparisons always end up being homes that are smaller than ours due to a lack of 5 bedroom homes in the area. It's bullshit.

Oh and they almost always compare it with homes that don't have finished basements.
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Old 11-13-2019, 08:57 AM   #53
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Even then, just because it may be something buyers want, it doesn't mean it's something they'll pay extra for. I had just rebuilt the 18'x12' shed and renovated the garage the past couple years....didn't really net me an extra dollar. The spectacular renovated kitchen OTOH absolutely did, and it's probably why it sold so quickly.

And yes, there are some that can be turn-offs. You never want to personalize your home too much unless you plan on dying in it.
The kitchen is modernized although that was done 10 years ago. Still, it looks better than the only comp she provided that looks very similar to mine. The bathroom (minus the tub/shower) was redone last year. The front porch used to be a concrete top, limestone porch that was starting to crumble and so we replaced it with a nice wooden porch/deck a year ago. At the same time, the sidewalk leading up to it was replaced.
Also regarding garages and the comp I mentioned, mine is twice the size of that one. We have two backyard patios to enjoy. I think those are good selling points but I'm by no means an expert.
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Old 11-13-2019, 09:00 AM   #54
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Those comparison homes always drive me nuts. There are no homes in my area that compare to ours. Our comparisons always end up being homes that are smaller than ours due to a lack of 5 bedroom homes in the area. It's bullshit.

Oh and they almost always compare it with homes that don't have finished basements.
That's the kind of thing that we're dealing with. Also, we have a loft that was converted to a bedroom. So, that makes it a 3 bedroom home. But they say you can't list it as that so they have to call it a bonus room. But there are no comps that have that. I feel like I don't want to leave money on the table but at the same time don't want to be an idiot and not listen to my agent who has a lot of experience. I hate this process.
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Old 11-13-2019, 09:04 AM   #55
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That's the kind of thing that we're dealing with. Also, we have a loft that was converted to a bedroom. So, that makes it a 3 bedroom home. But they say you can't list it as that so they have to call it a bonus room. But there are no comps that have that. I feel like I don't want to leave money on the table but at the same time don't want to be an idiot and not listen to my agent who has a lot of experience. I hate this process.
you can challenge the appraisal if it comes back low. My wife has had to do it a couple of times (shes the realtor) as i have stated a couple times and as others have mentioned...since the buyer is paying it you wont know what your home appraises at unless there is an issue.

your realtor should be able to help.
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Old 11-13-2019, 09:06 AM   #56
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just check zillow.com

what you think its worth doesnt matter. what the sellers appraiser thinks its worth will determine how much money a buyer can borrow
Yes, zillow is useful but it is not perfect. And my point was that I did a refi 5 years ago. There was an appraisal done then. They used comps for that appraisal then as well as doing a thorough inspection of the home. Since then, the home has gotten some things fixed and/or upgraded. So why wouldn't the home be more valuable than even that appraisal? But my agent gave me a suggestion on a price to list it which is about 7% lower than that appraisal. It just doesn't make sense to me. But like Rod said, my home is more unique and it's a little difficult to find a home that is similar. It's old and back in those days they didn't do cookie cutter houses.
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Old 11-13-2019, 09:21 AM   #57
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just check zillow.com

what you think its worth doesnt matter. what the sellers appraiser thinks its worth will determine how much money a buyer can borrow
I would never trust Zillow for a true estimate of price.
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Old 11-13-2019, 09:34 AM   #58
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I would never trust Zillow for a true estimate of price.
yep, once good thing zillow can do is give you a good visual representation of your local area and what properties are listed at. your realtor will have more accurate info but it could give you a mental picture of how you stack up against your competition.
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Old 11-13-2019, 09:35 AM   #59
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I would never trust Zillow for a true estimate of price.
Yep. Zillow lists my home way above market value because it heavily relies on total square footage. The county only utilize compatibles and last known assessment.

According to Zillow I own the most expensive house in the neighborhood.
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Old 11-13-2019, 09:36 AM   #60
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Yep. Zillow lists my home way above market value because it heavily relies on total square footage. The county only utilize compatibles and last known assessment.

According to Zillow I own the most expensive house in the neighborhood.
obviously you undervalue your grand mahogany staircase and Tiffany chandler. :P

we had the exact opposite issue depending on the day. some days it would show roughly what it should be other times it was off 90k (again i know this because my wife is a realtor). its annoying because some buyers do think zillow is very accurate and they get upset when the realtor has to explain why its not.
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