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Old 11-12-2019, 10:48 AM  
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Buccaneers release Vernon Hargreaves
Bring him in for a looky if he clears?
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Old 11-12-2019, 02:42 PM   #16
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He got cut for not hustling.
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Old 11-12-2019, 02:47 PM   #17
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He got cut for not hustling.
How’s that accountability thing work anyway?
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Old 11-12-2019, 03:08 PM   #18
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How’s that accountability thing work anyway?
if the chiefs cut the slackers there wouldn't be enough to field a team--(defense)
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Old 11-12-2019, 03:10 PM   #19
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The mentality seems to be to just plug any guy in there and hope for the best.

I think this is the biggest issue with the defense and has been since Andy got here.
He is lousy at picking DC's.
I swear spats and sutton suck the same
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Old 11-12-2019, 03:25 PM   #20
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He is lousy at picking DC's.
I swear spats and sutton suck the same
Andy is an offensive mastermind, but what truly made him a HC was Jim Johnson.
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Old 11-12-2019, 03:39 PM   #21
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I don't know this for fact, but I remember it being said on here when we hired Spags, that in his scheme, linebackers didn't really matter. I don't know who said it, but that appears to be dead wrong
If you were right than yeah you'd have a point, but you're not.

What was actually said on here is that Spagnuolo doesn't value the LB position a lot, which judging by what they've wheeled out, is accurate. If you're going to try and stir up shit, get your facts right.
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Old 11-12-2019, 04:17 PM   #22
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CB still isn't the problem.

Hasn't been the problem all season.

"But if only we had PP, we could use the safeties to fix the run game!!!"

{watches Thornhill trip over his dick and give up the biggest play of the game}

"Oh"

CB play isn't killing this team and in fact, it's the only unit on the squad that has consistently done its job this year.
Which ones are you bringing back next year since some are FAs and if you arent resigning them can you get a player on the market for less than what you would get Hargreaves for?
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Old 11-12-2019, 04:59 PM   #23
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This story reveals a lot about Vernon Hargreaves III in Tampa Bay.

https://www.bucsnation.com/2019/11/1...hargreaves-iii

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Hargreaves was benched during Sunday’s win over what seemed to be a lack of effort on a 55-yard catch and run by Cardinals receiver Andy Isabella.

Bruce Arians and Todd Bowles both thought they had something in Hargreaves, evidenced by the team’s decision to pick up his fifth-year rookie option in April of 2019. But ineffective play and a lack of attention to detail have derailed his career under a new coaching staff.

Hargreaves was chosen with the 11th-overall pick in the 2016 NFL Draft. He struggled quite a bit in the first year and a half, which prompted the Bucs to make him their slot corner in 2017. His play began to pick up, but he was placed on IR in Week 10 of the 2017 season and only had about two quarters of play under his belt before going on IR in Week 1 of the 2018 season.

A pick-six in Week 1 and a game-winning tackle in Week 2 gave way to the idea that Hargreaves was beginning to play to his potential, but he has fallen off a cliff since, allowing a 69.2% completion percentage that has yielded 578 yards and four touchdowns to go with the one interception. Quarterbacks have a 110.9 rating when throwing toward Hargreaves in 2019.

“After thoughtful consideration over the past few weeks, Bruce and I came to the conclusion that we needed to make this change,” said Buccaneers General Manager Jason Licht. “Decisions such as this are always difficult, but I felt it was in the best interest of our team to part ways with Vernon at this time and allow him to explore other opportunities. We are disappointed that it did not work out here for Vernon and we wish him continued success moving forward.”

Hargreaves played in 35 games over his four seasons in Tampa Bay, making 33 starts, recording 164 tackles (four for loss), 19 passes defensed, two interceptions, two forced fumbles, one fumble recovery and one defensive touchdown
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Old 11-12-2019, 06:30 PM   #24
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Old 11-12-2019, 06:57 PM   #25
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:25 PM   #26
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Would he not be jealous of Mahomes and bust his ass in this defense? Everybody on this defense takes a quaalude when Mahomes plays. Either they are jealous of him or they hate him.
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Old 11-12-2019, 07:35 PM   #27
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Old 11-12-2019, 11:28 PM   #28
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Andy is an offensive mastermind, but what truly made him a HC was Jim Johnson.
He definitely got spoiled and it really has hurt him in the long run.
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11th overall pick in 16 ! Veach is all over it Boys!! Will be a Chief soon !!!
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11th overall pick in 16 ! Veach is all over it Boys!! Will be a Chief soon !!!
Maybe, if he would of been 16th round in 2011 baseball draft.
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