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Old 09-22-2019, 02:23 PM  
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Props to Spags & The D
We didn't do real great against the run but we played a good game. Jackson got 2 TD's that were the result of plays that were nothing more than just plain LUCK! And one was a push off that didn't get called.

Key parts of the game:

Clark gets the sack at a crucial time
2, not 1 but 2 or even 3(?), 2-pt conversions stopped
Contained a very mobile QB in Jackson
Passing game for the Ravens was mostly luck. Coverage was there all game.


I'm liking what I am seeing so far. Need to tighten it up on the run a bit but the Ravens are a great running team. Keep improving and we have a solid middle of the pack defense.
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:16 PM   #136
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Spags is 10x the defensive coordinator Sutton was. I like how he actually makes in game adjustments, and mixes it up. Overall, I thought a few guys played really well. Jones (vs the pass), Honey Badger, and Ogbah. And then a few played really bad. Juan had a pretty horrible game. The D line couldnt get off blocks, and the Linebackers did well in coverage, but they react slow, fill slow, take poor pursuit angles, and then cant tackle half of the time. I think we need a LB more than a corner. Breeland, Fuller, and Ward are doing a decent job
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:16 PM   #137
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What we really need is to have a defense like Baltimore has. You know, the one that was down 30-13 after 3 quarters. The one that gave up 503 yards and 33 points. That's when we will be good! Yep. When our defense is as good as Baltimore's. Look out then.
The Ravens D was playing our offense. At this point I'm convinced we have the best offense of all time... Not really comparing apples to apples.
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:17 PM   #138
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Are we gonna be saying that when the Patriots run it down our throats again? We won’t always be playing a RB at QB man...
You think Brady is going to avoid the sacks that Lamar did today?
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:17 PM   #139
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So I just looked over the numbers for the game, and was surprised that our defense actually played a fairly decent game overall.

Baltimore came into the game as the league's leading offense, and LJ came in as a 133.6 passer rating. I think we can ignore his stats in week ! against the 'Fins, and just look at his stat line against the Cards.

24-37 for 272 yds 2 TD 0 INT 7.4 yds/Att 104.8 passer rating

16 rushes 120 yds 7.5 yds/carry

Today, Jackson's numbers:

22-43 267 0 TD 0 INT 6.2 yds/Att passer rating 70.6

8 rushes yds 5.75 yds/carry

Jackson completed less passes for less yds, though not by a huge margin, but our D did not give up a TD pass, his yds/Att dropped by more than a yard from last week, and if you do include the Miami game, where his yds/Att was 16.2, we dropped him down by 10 yds/Att. And our secondary, in spite of some obvious gaffes and a couple truly lucky heaves, cut his passer rating in half, from 133 to 74.

Baltimore as a team (Jackson, Ingram, Edwards,etc.) has averaged rushing 205 yds/game. Today, instead of giving up more than our opponent's average, which we've been doing for a couple years now, we actually only gave up their average, 203.

And playing the Ravens is kind of like playing Army or Navy in CF. They run a crap ton, and their attack is like no other. We won't see another offense like them unless we see them in the playoffs.

So, IMO, giving up just their average, particularly when our D has consistently given up more than the opponent's average for a while now, is a success for us right now. And let's be honest, everyone gives up a lot of rushing yards to these guys.

And now the best part: our guys have only been playing together in Spag's scheme for a few weeks. That, people, is what we call progress.
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:18 PM   #140
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The Ravens have the best run d in the NFL and McCoy/Williams both had ridiculous YPC today.

Who gives a **** about YPC?
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:18 PM   #141
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middle was rough today because of lamars ability to hit a home run on a read option. i can guarantee spags told the ends to never cross the tackles face or scrape down on ingram. tough to defend with his running talent.
Yup, they had to play contain against Jackson. Makes a major difference.
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:19 PM   #142
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What we really need is to have a defense like Baltimore has. You know, the one that was down 30-13 after 3 quarters. The one that gave up 503 yards and 33 points. That's when we will be good! Yep. When our defense is as good as Baltimore's. Look out then.
If our defense had to face Mahomes and our offense, you don't think it would be down 30-13(or more) in 3 quarters?
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:20 PM   #143
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:20 PM   #144
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Honestly, it is the last drive that is cause for concern.

I know, I know, prevent and all...

But still, it was too easy and too quick---70 yard in 2 minutes and 35 second...gotta make them work harder than that and use up a bit more time.

The defense is better...especcially in the first 3 qtrs. Take out the Jax 4th qtr and this one....and the defense looks much improved over last year, especially when you factor in that we have not generated a ton of turnovers.

It is a work in progress, but in the word of Mr. Wolf---- Let's not starting sucking each other's dicks just yet.
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:21 PM   #145
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It's a good recipe for success in the regular season against mediocre QBs. I think the reason most of us are worried is because the regular season doesn't matter so much anymore. We all know what's important here- beating the Pats in January. In order to do that, we're going to need to be able to play sound, fundamental, good defense across the board. As it stands, we apparently can't play both good pass and run defense. We're ceding yards on the ground in order to be able to stop the pass- we can't do that when we play New England.



You might be right, I just haven't seen any numbers to support the claim so I can't really argue against it. The run defense certainly looks different but the end result is extremrly similar to Sutton's defenses.
Thing is that you got to win in the regular season to get little things like 1.)into the playoffs and 2.)home field advantage. And like someone else pointed out, this D has 3 games under it's belt. Today was a big step up in competition and they still won. They're still figuring out what they are good at and what works/doesn't work but any time you end the week with a win it's been a good week.
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:22 PM   #146
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The Ravens have the best run d in the NFL and McCoy/Williams both had ridiculous YPC today.

Who gives a **** about YPC?
Run game was solid today. Much better than I expected given Fisher's injury.
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I thought the secondary generally had pretty good coverage today but gave up some fluke plays. The rest of the D was bad.
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Old 09-22-2019, 03:22 PM   #148
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Honestly, it is the last drive that is cause for concern.

I know, I know, prevent and all...

But still, it was too easy and too quick---70 yard in 2 minutes and 35 second...gotta make them work harder than that and use up a bit more time.

The defense is better...especcially in the first 3 qtrs. Take out the Jax 4th qtr and this one....and the defense looks much improved over last year, especially when you factor in that we have not generated a ton of turnovers.

It is a work in progress, but in the word of Mr. Wolf---- Let's not starting sucking each other's dicks just yet.
And didn't they get lucky on a cross-body throw that bounced into the WR's arms to keep that drive going? A play that if ran like that 10 times would most likely fail the next 9?
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