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View Poll Results: So. Was it Tom or Bill? | |||
Tom Terrific | 47 | 37.60% | |
Hoodie Bill | 16 | 12.80% | |
Unsure | 18 | 14.40% | |
Who cares about that poverty level team in Foxboro? | 44 | 35.20% | |
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10-26-2020, 07:58 AM | #91 | |
Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses
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He's a sub .500 HC without Brady and that includes a significant sample size. |
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10-26-2020, 07:59 AM | #92 |
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Brady went to a team with tons of weapons and a good to great defense. I wouldn't write belichek out for one down year. If he still is doing poorly the next two seasons then I'll agree it was brady.
Also he had the most key players opt out due to covid of any team |
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10-26-2020, 07:59 AM | #93 | |
'Tis my eye!
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It's not about this year. It's about Bill's entire body of work. |
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10-26-2020, 08:12 AM | #94 |
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10-26-2020, 08:19 AM | #95 |
'Tis my eye!
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10-26-2020, 08:20 AM | #96 | ||
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Jamis Winston led them to the #1 offense in the league last year, if I recall correctly. His problem was that he turned over the ball too much. So let's not act as if the team wasn't already built into a good team. Brady walked into a great situation for him to succeed. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. Still a long way to go before you crown him. Personally, I hope he fails. |
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10-26-2020, 08:23 AM | #97 |
Choco Favre
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10-26-2020, 08:24 AM | #98 | |
Banded
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I wouldn't say that. But what I would say is that he needs another really good to great QB to win another SB. And that's probably not going to happen because he's getting old and will retire soon, most likely. These situations always prove that it is a combination of coach and QB. The marriage of Brady and Belicheck was the perfect situation. Hard to duplicate something like that. |
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10-26-2020, 08:26 AM | #99 | |
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10-26-2020, 08:28 AM | #100 | |
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10-26-2020, 08:29 AM | #101 |
Fish are scared of me
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Just look at the Colts before PM and after PM. Same with the Donkeys. PM made Elway look like a great GM. Now he's a laughing stock.
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10-26-2020, 08:31 AM | #102 | |
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10-26-2020, 08:33 AM | #103 | |
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He could definitely win another ring, give him a good qb and let him get his defense back. He could win a ring. Its not like Brady carried them to the first one anyway. Andy didn't win a ring without mahomes, does that mean he's not a good coach? Or that it was all mahomes? |
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10-26-2020, 08:53 AM | #104 | |
Why so serious?
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I might imagine that for the bulk of the relationship, Belichick benefitted more from Brady than the reverse. But more recently - like in the season where they beat us in the AFCCG and the following one - Brady probably benefitted more from Belichick's defense mind as his physical skills declined. |
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10-26-2020, 08:54 AM | #105 | ||
'Tis my eye!
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I never said he was a BAD coach. I didn't say he was. I said his sub-500 record without Brady suggests he's not a Super Bowl winning coach without Brady. And it absolutely does. Quote:
The simple fact is that talent wins Super Bowls. Talent at QB wins Super Bowls. Coaches don't win Super Bowls without that talent. In fact, they CAN'T win Super Bowls without that talent. It's nearly impossible. That's how important QB's are. |
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