***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Yes, strong T cell memory and plasmoblasts.

I really think you'll be fine.

[Warrick]

You still have a couple of months TLO, in the meantime do your research and talk to your doctors.

[OnTheWarpath15]

You're a.) taking a dewormer, b.) that's meant for horses/cattle and you're asking other likeminded idiots if shitting yourself is normal?

Holy **** this country is doomed.

Got into a private ivermectin (horse dewormer) group, and everyone is pooping their pants pic.twitter.com/yqjC4Gp2mv

— Aric Toler (@AricToler) August 26, 2021

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

You're a.) taking a dewormer, b.) that's meant for horses/cattle and you're asking other likeminded idiots if shitting yourself is normal?

Holy **** this country is doomed.

Got into a private ivermectin (horse dewormer) group, and everyone is pooping their pants pic.twitter.com/yqjC4Gp2mv

— Aric Toler (@AricToler) August 26, 2021

I have to believe it's only a small minority of people who are doing that. I hope.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I have to believe it's only a small minority of people who are doing that. I hope.

Hope so. Took a trip to Lansing last week before our whole family came down with the stuff and saw businesses on K7 advertising its sale.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I have to believe it's only a small minority of people who are doing that. I hope.

What was it in something I posted yesterday...

Like 5% admitted to injecting/drinking bleach/disinfectants?

20% wash their produce with bleach?

40% admitted to taking something that wasn't recommended to prevent COVID?

Minority? Sure.

Small minority? Nah. There are a LOT of stupids out there, sadly.

[wazu]

Saw this in the replies:

Evidence is these guys are using ANY horse wormer they can get, not just ivermectin. I’ve got a farm w. 30 horses to worm, and ALL of the wormers are in short supply. This is nuts.

— Judith Grass (@GrassJudith) August 26, 2021

[wazu]

I can at least understand people who just aren't concerned with COVID, and don't want to get vaccinated. I think they're wrong, but I can at least get my mind around it. But what's amazing is people who are seemingly terrified of it, but refuse to accept the solution that is broadly recommended by the medical community.

[O.city]

What in the world is goin on in Florida? Have they peaked yet?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I have to believe it's only a small minority of people who are doing that. I hope.

People who wont take the vaccine but will take horse dewormer are probably not going to be around to live too a long life one way or another.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by O.city

I just don't see the need. If you're immune naive, sure. Get the vaccine. Or get Covid.

But if you've had either, I just don't see the need.

Unless you're older or immunocompromised.

I guess if you had a bad reaction to the first or second shot, but I didn't. A slight sore arm, no more aches or pains than I would have on any other day. No headache or sleeping in.

I'm not elderly but neither am I young. Getting sick even if only a bad cold isn't pleasant plus having to isolate. So I don't see any down side, in my case, for getting a third shot if they are offering them.

[BigBeauford]

Deaths are starting to soar again.

BREAKING: U.S. reports more than 2,000 coronavirus deaths, including backlog from Florida

— BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk) August 26, 2021

[Jerm]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

are you serious? these people are idiots

Yup…supposedly 6 kids got turned away today, they’re so dumb.

[jdubya]

My County of 1.1 million here in the east SF Bay Area…..”active cases decreasing by 15% over the last 14 days and hospitalizations with 220 hospitalized with 40 in ICU.” My county has an 84% vax rate

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

Deaths are starting to soar again.

BREAKING: U.S. reports more than 2,000 coronavirus deaths, including backlog from Florida

— BNO Newsroom (@BNODesk) August 26, 2021

Including backlog deaths as a single day total is kinda disingenuous.

This is why I like the Worldometer tracker best. They actually put the positives and deaths where they belong, when they actually happened.

Wednesday 8/25 at 1386 is the highest death total so far on the Delta surge. Though I expect that to rise as more people who are sick now die.

An interesting personal anecdote, a gal that works for me 23 yr old brother in law nearly went on a ventilator a couple days ago. They already had him on steroids, but as a last ditch thing before intubating him, they hit him with a "massive" steroid dose, and he's been dramatically better since. This kid was in good shape relatively, and when he headed to the hospital, his extremities were turning grey and his lips blue from lack of oxygen.