***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I think some of it is because people are nervous and want to wait or just don't want the vaccine period. We only had about 50% acceptance for our employees.

They're rolling it out to places that are dedicated to giving vaccinations (Ie DR's offices and Pharmacies). It could go faster elsewhere but it is what it is.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I think some of it is because people are nervous and want to wait or just don't want the vaccine period. We only had about 50% acceptance for our employees.

I've been saying this for quite a while. Took a lot of shit for it too but it is what it is. A lot of people just aren't in a rush to go out and get stuck.

I think if you start knocking down the deaths by sticking the old folks you will see a lot more relaxation of restrictions and stuff.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

They're rolling it out to places that are dedicated to giving vaccinations (Ie DR's offices and Pharmacies). It could go faster elsewhere but it is what it is.

The question now is how long until we start seeing the impact of people getting vaccinated?

[KCUnited]

Chicago is setting up a vaccination supersite at a local college campus. Its initial focus will be non-hospital affiliated healthcare workers.

There has also been distribution in hotspot communities around the city.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Chicago is setting up a vaccination supersite at a local college campus. Its initial focus will be non-hospital affiliated healthcare workers.

There has also been distribution in hotspot communities around the city.

There ya go. We need to increase the # of vaccines going into arms. Need to start setting up temp sites just like we did for testing. The faster we do this, the faster we get back to normal.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

There ya go. We need to increase the # of vaccines going into arms. Need to start setting up temp sites just like we did for testing. The faster we do this, the faster we get back to normal.

You do realize you have to monitor each person for 15 min after you inject them, right?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

Wife's company will have office people home until June.

I think a lot of companies are going to start realizing they can save money by having people work at home.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

I think a lot of companies are going to start realizing they can save money by having people work at home.

That's already happened.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You do realize you have to monitor each person for 15 min after you inject them, right?

In my wife's case, we voluntarily sat in the parking lot for 15 minutes. It's not like they have a dedicated nurse watching you.

[MahomesMagic]

Cashing in on COVID: Pandemic turns 50 doctors and scientists into BILLIONAIRES - with more than half hailing from China, Forbes reveals
The pandemic has helped turn dozens of healthcare leaders into billionaires
According to Forbes, 50 doctors, scientists and healthcare entrepreneurs earned billionaire status this year with the majority being from China
Of the 50 new billionaires, 28 hail from China, where virus first emerged in 2019
One notable new billionaires is Uğur Şahin, the physician who co-founded BioNTech, which helped develop the Pfizer vaccine
Another notable new billionaire is Stéphane Bancel, the CEO of Moderna

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lionaires.html

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You do realize you have to monitor each person for 15 min after you inject them, right?

This is a suggestion, but never a requirement, and has always been such for vaccinations.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

This is a suggestion, but never a requirement, and has always been such for vaccinations.

From what I understand they are doing it rather regularly right now because of the media crap we have heard about 6 of 2,000,000+ people.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

From what I understand they are doing it rather regularly right now because of the media crap we have heard about 6 of 2,000,000+ people.

They cannot force you to stay. It's not a psych hold, and you don't have to sign papers saying that you are leaving AMA.

It's always been best practice to help prevent rare sequelae or syncopal events, but it can't be mandated.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

They cannot force you to stay. It's not a psych hold, and you don't have to sign papers saying that you are leaving AMA.

It's always been best practice to help prevent rare reactions or syncopal events, but it can't be mandated.

Ah, well, okay then....

[Donger]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

rare sequelae or syncopal events,

I had a gal in high school do that to me once, I think.