***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

How have things been in Kansas City and Missouri?

Hoping the situation is improving rather than worsening

Seeing a bit of a rollover in cases and hospitalizations but not much as of yet. Biggest notable in the area is deaths are really dropping so that's good.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Seeing a bit of a rollover in cases and hospitalizations but not much as of yet. Biggest notable in the area is deaths are really dropping so that's good.

That's good at least.

I had a look at the daily cases and they seem to be dropping over the past couple weeks.

Is that because of a strict lockdown?

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Some will remember that a few weeks back I posted about my S.O. contracting COVID and getting very sick — she eventually came out of it and is doing well now, which is most important.

She first started showing symptoms on a Friday night, but I hadn’t. Knew that we were close contacts already at that point to someone who did have it, so we immediately began to space out and wear masks within our own living quarters.

I never got it, tested multiple times. My immediate family didn’t either despite being around them plenty of times in the last month. And I’ve gotta believe that the only reason is because we took those preventative steps.

Just some food for thought, know I’m generally preaching to the choir here, but I sure wish people would wake up. At my local Walmart where masks are supposed to be mandated, I would say we are lucky if 33% are ever wearing them. It’s embarrassing...

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

That's good at least.

I had a look at the daily cases and they seem to be dropping over the past couple weeks.

Is that because of a strict lockdown?

No, there haven't been any strict lockdowns. KC closes bars and restaurants at 10pm but Johnson County is letting them stay open until 12.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Some will remember that a few weeks back I posted about my S.O. contracting COVID and getting very sick — she eventually came out of it and is doing well now, which is most important.

She first started showing symptoms on a Friday night, but I hadn’t. Knew that we were close contacts already at that point to someone who did have it, so we immediately began to space out and wear masks within our own living quarters.

I never got it, tested multiple times. My immediate family didn’t either despite being around them plenty of times in the last month. And I’ve gotta believe that the only reason is because we took those preventative steps.

Just some food for thought, know I’m generally preaching to the choir here, but I sure wish people would wake up. At my local Walmart where masks are supposed to be mandated, I would say we are lucky if 33% are ever wearing them. It’s embarrassing...

My brother in law lives with his gf in kc and she had it and they were together the whole time thru in their apartment. He got tested and quarantined, never had an issue

Gotta think there’s some kind of immunity going on

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

My brother in law lives with his gf in kc and she had it and they were together the whole time thru in their apartment. He got tested and quarantined, never had an issue

Gotta think there’s some kind of immunity going on

I wish my Wife would have gotten tested while I had it but she wouldn't. Not for any political reasons or anything like that but nonetheless.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

My brother in law lives with his gf in kc and she had it and they were together the whole time thru in their apartment. He got tested and quarantined, never had an issue

Gotta think there’s some kind of immunity going on

My daughter tested positive and my son in law and the kids never developed symptoms. (She had symptoms).

Friends wife tested positive and same thing in their household, he didnt and neither did their daughter and he continued to sleep in the same bed with her TRYING to catch it.

Its a weird bug for sure. Look at all the asymptomatic cases so far in the NFL. We only know about them because of daily testing.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by petegz28

No, there haven't been any strict lockdowns. KC closes bars and restaurants at 10pm but Johnson County is letting them stay open until 12.

Fair fair.

Would that be the main reason for the drop in cases over the past 2 weeks?

[phisherman]

Hard to tell. We've been wearing masks in pretty much all public places for months now. That rule never really got lax, at least on my side of the metro.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Are Covid Patients Gasping ‘It Isn’t Real’ As They Die?
An ER nurse’s anecdote of deranged denialism went viral. But when the media caught wind of the story, reporters didn’t do their jobs.

As WIRED’s Gilad Edelman reported at the time, none of these accounts held up to further scrutiny—yet each had been picked up from its original source and then amplified by larger publications that added little or no additional reporting. There’s good reason for these stories to be passed along, Edelman wrote. The hospital administrator who first went public with the story of the last-breath Covid-party confession is “trying desperately to get the American public to take the coronavirus seriously. If she hears a perfect cautionary tale, it isn’t necessarily her responsibility to investigate whether it’s too perfect before passing it along. It is, however, precisely the job of reporters.”

https://www.wired.com/story/are-covi...l-as-they-die/

When someone posted somepne in their family didn't think Covid is real it was followed by many posters calling BS. Then for pages you had posters say, my neighbor, uncle, friend and even my dad think it was fake.

Its all anecdotal but there is also reputable polls. Okay so polls can be wrong.

There is obviously a significant portion on the USA that doesn't think Covid is real. We don't know how large but why the denial it even exists. People believe misinformation every single day, why would this be different?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

When someone posted somepne in their family didn't think Covid is real it was followed by many posters calling BS. Then for pages you had posters say, my neighbor, uncle, friend and even my dad think it was fake.

Its all anecdotal but there is also reputable polls. Okay so polls can be wrong.

There is obviously a significant portion on the USA that doesn't think Covid is real.

Define "real" in the context of your statements? I think this is where the disconnect is, very very few people believe its not real, many people still think its not as dangerous as being portrayed. Thats not the same thing.

Right in the post from IA_Chiefs_fan he says his dad didn't believe it was real but also said his dad claimed to have already had it last November.

Get what I am saying? So you need to define what "its not real" actually means.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Fair fair.

Would that be the main reason for the drop in cases over the past 2 weeks?

Doubtful. Very doubtful.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Some will remember that a few weeks back I posted about my S.O. contracting COVID and getting very sick — she eventually came out of it and is doing well now, which is most important.

She first started showing symptoms on a Friday night, but I hadn’t. Knew that we were close contacts already at that point to someone who did have it, so we immediately began to space out and wear masks within our own living quarters.

I never got it, tested multiple times. My immediate family didn’t either despite being around them plenty of times in the last month. And I’ve gotta believe that the only reason is because we took those preventative steps.

Glad to hear your S.O. is doing much better now.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Just some food for thought, know I’m generally preaching to the choir here, but I sure wish people would wake up. At my local Walmart where masks are supposed to be mandated, I would say we are lucky if 33% are ever wearing them. It’s embarrassing...

Here in Florida its wide open. The Governor is going as far as suing any county, city that makes a local only mask mandate, restricts hours of bars etc. etc.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Define "real" in the context of your statements? I think this is where the disconnect is, very very few people believe its not real, many people still think its not as dangerous as being portrayed. Thats not the same thing.

Right in the post from IA_Chiefs_fan he says his dad didn't believe it was real but also said his dad claimed to have already had it last November.

Get what I am saying? So you need to define what "its not real" actually means.

Sorry man but thats how conversations go in DC. No interest in going down that road. See The Pete and Donger debates for pages in this thread.

Wheres your evidence? How do you define "real"? With all due respect, I just don't want to get into those conversations.

I said these reports are anecdotal which means its not a fact so I'm not having a conversation about defining "real" for something thats not a fact.

[RunKC]

I finally got my test back today and I’m positive just like I thought. Sucks not being able to go anywhere but oh well.

I feel more fatigued and still sweat a lot but really not too bad. Wife is fine too. Breathing is still different but nowhere near bad by any account.