***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

You do that, pete. While you're at it, why don't you call Fauci a fear-mongerer again for saying that we'd hit 100,000 cases. Remember that?

Again, you have the accuracy, precision and range a Daisy BB gun on this matter. Wrong from day one.

Have a nice evening.

We get it, Donger. You don't like what he said so we'll pretend he never said it. That's how you roll, we get it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

When the virus is this widespread, the risks have greatly increased.

The government has kinda washed its hands of this woth all their bullshit so it’s up to people to weigh risks and do what they can

Meanwhile I think NYC is about to revolt over the mere hours of notice that schools are closing tomorrow.

Cuomo got into it with reporters saying schools aren't going to close to only have a reporter tell him literally minutes later that De Blasio closed the schools.

Shit ton of people super pissed in NYC at the moment.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by TLO

People in Germany say no to lockdowns.

Scene from anti-covid-restrictions protest in Berlin pic.twitter.com/AOjVDZnqwn

— ian bremmer (@ianbremmer) November 18, 2020

The tweet is a lie. They are just there to get sprayed with the vaccine.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

The tweet is a lie. They are just there to get sprayed with the vaccine.

I thought maybe it was an unusually hot day and they were all there to get play in the water hose and stuff.

[displacedinMN]

Minnesota killed all sports. Shut down restaurants, fitness centers and bars for four weeks.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

Minnesota killed all sports. Shut down restaurants, fitness centers and bars for four weeks.

Vikings?

[petegz28]

Lockdowns are starting to spread across the country. I have a bad feeling about this because they seem to be going further than just shutting down some businesses. Telling people how many people they can have in their homes. Some saying you have to wear your mask even in your home. After all the crap that has gone on from protests this summer to recently leaders like Gov. Newsome in CA not practicing what they preach, this might be a bad, bad thing.

Parents are tired of the yo-yo with schools. Businesses are becoming desperate and their employees by extension. Curfews are pointless. The big difference this time around is no assistance this time around. No PPP or expanded UEI.

We already see the protests going on in Europe over their lockdowns. I don't think this is going to go over well here either.

[BigRedChief]

Who gets the first vaccines?

The first shots will be offered to vulnerable groups like medical and nursing home workers, and people with serious health conditions.

I’d say that’s controversial free. But who gets the vaccine next?

An expert panel advising the CDC are meeting next week to determine the order of priority for vaccines distribution.

[BigRedChief]

Another topic....

Since both vaccines are at 95% effective rate. Can we pick which vaccine we get?

Seems like the vaccine you only have to get once is going to be a lot more popular than the one that you have to get 3 weeks apart.

[Hawker007]

Just to be clear, it’s not months apart from doses of the vaccine. It’s 2 or 3 weeks apart. Just want to clarify that.

[jdubya]

Just got off the phone with a friend of mine who lives in Strasbourg France and he says although they are back in lockdown, kids remain in school as that is considered "essential".

[arrowheadnation]

My dad is 70 years old and undergoing cancer treatment every two weeks. I took him to his treatment on Monday and they told us that prior to the end of the year, they're hoping to start issuing the vaccines to patients when they come in for treatments, but no official word yet.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Hawker007

Just to be clear, it’s not months apart from doses of the vaccine. It’s 2 or 3 weeks apart. Just want to clarify that.

3 weeks. Fixed the post.
https://www.businessinsider.com/pfiz...ts-2020-11?amp

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by arrowheadnation

My dad is 70 years old and undergoing cancer treatment every two weeks. I took him to his treatment on Monday and they told us that they're hoping they can issue the vaccines to patients when they come in for treatments, but no official word yet.

makes sense. Why not. The one vaccine that just needs normal medical refrigeration would do well in those offices. They already know how to store drugs properly.

[ChiliConCarnage]

The Lancet had an update on the Oxford phase 2 results. It seems promising. We should get early phase 3 results before the years end. This will be much easier to mass distribute if it's effective. Takes two shots and time

Two weeks after the second dose, more than 99% of participants had neutralising antibody responses. These included people of all ages.
The T-cell response - another measure of how well the immune system responds - peaked two weeks after the first dose of the vaccine, regardless of age.