***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by loochy

i.e. only closing gyms and bars


i.e. doing nothing in reality, only symbolically so they can say they did something

They will toss restaurants in there I am sure. Along with hair and nail salons, etc. So pretty much what small businesses they didn't put under back in March they are getting another shit at it.

[petegz28]

And without any kind of compensation from the government like you had before I can see people telling them to **** off.

[TLO]

Are we just gonna shut down all the schools and everything again too?

[O.city]

People aren’t shutting down again

You had ****ing political rallies and celebrations now you’re gonna tell me to shut down a business? Nah, go **** yourself

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Are we just gonna shut down all the schools and everything again too?

Don't know. Just heard "non-essential businesses". This is not going to be good.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

It has always been and continues to be that masks in public + SD in public + don't gather indoors + hand hygiene will most likely keep you from getting Covid.

This far into this thing its clear, until a vaccine is available, thats the best defense combination we have to stop the spread.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

People aren’t shutting down again

You had ****ing political rallies and celebrations now you’re gonna tell me to shut down a business? Nah, go **** yourself

Exactly but yeah, looks like it might be happening.

[O.city]

There’s zero political will for it

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

People aren’t shutting down again

You had ****ing political rallies and celebrations now you’re gonna tell me to shut down a business? Nah, go **** yourself

I guess Springfield could lock down but Parson's will never shut down the state. We can't even get a simple mask mandate from him.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

There’s zero political will for it

Apparently there is. Supposedly one of the Commissioners that was fighting to keep JoCo open was voted out this last election.

[O.city]

They can do whatever they wanna try. People aren’t gonna do it

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by TLO

My fear is they don't. And I'm concerned it's more complicated than people not taking precautions and gathering more.

But that's just the fearful side of me.

My logical side says to keep doing what I've been doing for the last 8 months and take all the precautions I can. There's nothing else that can really be done.

I don't think it's fearful at all. It's actually pretty astute.

There are plenty of people taking all of the recommended precautions and they're still getting sick.

Assuming that they really don't know what's going on isn't being fearful or even selfish like some people say. It's just common sense. I mean, it's a brand new virus, they're going to learn as they go.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Thanks. I tried reading it but my eyes glossed over but I do find it cool that they were able to id the 6 key strains.

And those strains had single nucleotide variations (replacing a single nucleotide with another). Those are small variations, and often they don't impact anything.

[dirk digler]

one other thing...Do not go on cruises during a global pandemic. Seriously, there is some really stupid people

JUST IN: The ship's captain announces 5 people have tested positive for #COVID19 on SeaDream 1, the first cruise ship to embark on a voyage in the Caribbean since the #coronavirus shut down the cruise industry.

— Ana Cabrera (@AnaCabrera) November 12, 2020

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

And those strains had single nucleotide variations (replacing a single nucleotide with another). Those are small variations, and often they don't impact anything.

Like they say, if you can't be with the nucleotide you love, cohere with the one you're with!