***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I'm just going to say it....if there's a group that seems to be saying **** off it's the hispanic community. I don't know if they're not getting the message or they just don't give a shit...but it's starting to wear on me.

Triumph Foods says hola!

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by TLO

Triumph Foods says hola!

Yeah perhaps all the packing plants should send home a ****ing flyer written in Espanol or buy some airtime on Telemundo to get the message out

[Mr_Tomahawk]

This thread is dying like the fear of covid19 is dying. We will be back to “normal” in July.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

This thread is dying like the fear of covid19 is dying. We will be back to “normal” in July.

Hell in my county in central California, we did "shutdown" minimized things, and been opening up for a while now. That was supposed to be the "plan" all along. Hopefully in this extreme heat my county lives in will make it harder to spread.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I'm just going to say it....if there's a group that seems to be saying **** off it's the hispanic community. I don't know if they're not getting the message or they just don't give a shit...but it's starting to wear on me.

My Hispanic neighbors had a party with a band and at least 20-30 people over a month ago. I think it's a cultural thing. Not seeing their friends and family is much harder than it is for those of us who would prefer not to see people in general.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

This thread is dying like the fear of covid19 is dying. We will be back to “normal” in July.

Certainly would be nice. I still worry about the fall, but it definitely seems like summer isn't going to be bad.

[TLO]

Finished at 505 for the day on Worldomoters. I know it's a holiday and all.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by DaFace

My Hispanic neighbors had a party with a band and at least 20-30 people over a month ago. I think it's a cultural thing. Not seeing their friends and family is much harder than it is for those of us who would prefer not to see people in general.

yep, Hispanic families are usually very very close, hell, im 43 and my mom still comes over and cooks for me a few times a week. Its just how it is! If i have a girl or not, moms will still cook for EVERYONE. I have my niece 4-5 times a week while my sister is at work. We have family dinner 1-3 times a week usually 1-2 though. On folks days off, we usually always do something together still. Hell, my dad still goes to my moms for dinner and they have been divorced for 30 years.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Holiday, weekend, all of that BUT, BUT, BUT, still very low numbered even so.

This is obviously dumb considering COVID can takes weeks before death. People infected at Lake of the Ozarks this weekend wouldn't die today.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by sedated

This is obviously dumb considering COVID can takes weeks before death. People infected at Lake of the Ozarks this weekend wouldn't die today.

Really????????

Sorry to inform you but the Holiday\weekend reference was due to the tendency to be lower counts on the weekends and had absolutely nothing to do with the Ozarks, Professor.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by sedated

People infected at Lake of the Ozarks this weekend wouldn't die today.

True. But I don't see us doing a 180 and heading towards 3000 deaths per day in June like that "leaked document" from the White House was showing.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by DaFace

My Hispanic neighbors had a party with a band and at least 20-30 people over a month ago. I think it's a cultural thing. Not seeing their friends and family is much harder than it is for those of us who would prefer not to see people in general.

Haha. I’ve been practicing social distancing since before it was cool

On another note:

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-...Z7M2mkwd2AirM8

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

True. But I don't see us doing a 180 and heading towards 3000 deaths per day like that "leaked document" from the White House was showing.

He's talking out of his ass and has no idea what we are talking about. You were right about your first post and this post. Even for a weekend the totals today are very, very low and yes, we are far from heading to what that ridiculous model stated.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

This thread is dying like the fear of covid19 is dying. We will be back to “normal” in July.

Is this the longest thread in CP history? It’s got to be up there.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Is this the longest thread in CP history? It’s got to be up there.

Not the longest, yet:

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=285643

There may be longer ones.