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Originally Posted by O.city
Cowherd brought it up this morning so we shoudl talk about it.
Is there a chance Andy catches Belicheck and ends up passing him as the best ever? Bill without Brady just isn't good. We've seen that.
Andy without Mahomes is great, with Mahomes he's an elite coach. He's gonna have Mahomes for 10 years. If he wins next week, then in the next 10 say wins another 3 or 4, and is winning 12 games a year, is he close?
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To be honest, I think Andy is better than Belichick now. Or to be more precise, that Andy Reid has been better than Belichick since coming to KC.
Forget the accomplishments for a second.
Essentially what Bill did was take the traditional formula for winning games and championships to the highest level we've ever seen. Check it: build a great defense. Add an offense that doesn't make mistakes by utilizing the highest percentage plays and game-planning possible. Add QB that can execute that game plan. Done. nothing new to see here, just doing what everyone has always wanted to do at a consistently exceptional level.
OTOH, Andy Reid has single-handedly changed how the NFL thinks about the game, specifically about how to play offense. Andy Reid has been the innovator, to the point that everyone in the league probably has a few Andy Reid plays in their playbooks now. Andy Reid is the one that's consistently and continuously pushing the envelope of what's possible offensively in the NFL. He's the one leading the rest of the league to try and innovate, to look at how to attack defenses differently and more creatively than ever before, since the birth of the forward pass.
And it's Andy that's forcing changes in how defense is played as well. It's his play designs that are driving the changes we seem to see nearly every week in how defenses try to contain offenses and QBs. The days of "we have to stop the run first with our front 7," are nearly gone, replaced now by "we have to get to the QB with our front 4, cover athletic pass-catching TEs/RBs with our LBs, and have opportunistic CB/S play." Brute strength and size are being replaced by situational intelligence, speed and athleticism.
In fact, it's Andy Reid, more than any other play designer, that's forced Bill Belichick to come up with new schemes to try and cope with the Chiefs' offense over the last 8 years. Probably no other HC/OC has driven Belichick as much as Andy Reid, and it's probably not even close.
And look at how organizations are now pushing to find that athletic, high performance hybrid QB now. The pure pocket passer prototype is nearly dead now. Everyone is looking for the next Mahomes. Everyone is looking for the next offensive innovator with the high-octane offensive schemes and play designs, to score as quickly and as often as possible. The "great defensive play and ground and pound rush-first/control the clock" offensive schemes are going the way of the dodo bird.
Bottom line, Andy Reid has pushed the limits of what offense looks like more than any other in NFL history, and consequently what the NFL is going to look like far into the future.
From that perspective, of innovation and enduring fundamental change of the game itself, in my opinion Andy Reid is already the best coach over Belichick.
Ymmv.