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Royals Announce New Ballpark in "The Heart of Downtown KC"
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Royals Announce New Ballpark in "The Heart of Downtown KC"
What do you guys think about the new ballpark?
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I think traffic and parking is going to suck…
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I know that times change and the team needs to remain competitive in decades to come, but losing the tailgating experience for the Royals games is a significant negative for me.
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Now if they can just get a legit MLB team to play in that stadium.
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Parking? lol... be prepared to try and find $100+ ubers. |
I'd vote yes but I don't get to vote
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I'll say it again. This is a great idea circa 20 years ago when there was a renaissance of downtowns. This is not the situation today.
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Stupid. Who the **** wants to go to these third world down towns any more?
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Just a bad idea any way you look at it in my opinion.
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I'm just glad they didn't build it in NKC. Our taxes would've gone up, they can keep the stadium in Jackson county.
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I feel like it's good for the image of the city in the national scale, just like the new airport was something overdue, that section of downtown KC needs some work. It's the hub of travel through downtown, but it's been the same since I was a kid. I feel bad for the businesses that will be bought out or moved, but we need to stop pretending this is being done for the Royals in anyway shape or form. I could care less about the Royals getting a new ballpark, but what it does for the city I think needs to be done sooner or later.
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Good for the city, and I'm sure it will be a passing curiosity for residents who live in the area. I just can't see how this will translate for the die-hards and older fans. No additional parking sounds like a bad time that I wouldn't bother with more than once a season.
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And keep caring less, I suppose. |
I think this helps in some aspects for the city as a whole but I don’t believe it improves anything for fans and in fact probably makes it worst in many ways. Can’t see my family of four with a 6 and 8 year old going to a Saturday night game downtown.
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The parking question has to be answered because cities with downtown ballparks either have better mass transit than KC or have some sort of parking facilities that can handle the crowds... in most cases, both.
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Enjoyed the suburbanite and boomer comments on FB yesterday... traffic and congestion nightmares, one way streets, cats and dogs living together, won't ever attend another game ever!!!
Hell, it took me an hour and a half to get out of WS game 7 in 2014 and at least an hour to get out of the 2021 AFCCG.... downtown won't be any worse than that. The one hope though is managing the flow of people and vehicle traffic... Sprint Center events have been annoying in the past because they funnel everyone right in front of the parking garages where no one can leave due to all the foot traffic. Just a little bit of thought towards managing that and traffic lights and so forth would go a long way. |
I'm a huge fan of smaller baseball stadiums in downtown areas. Works great. Shared for other things like concerts or motor bike or bike or skateboard events.
35-40K max seating. Gotta have some mass transit to and from to support. |
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Ha. KC Residents will never not worry about parking and free refills, nothing ever changes.
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I'd rather they pour some money into the team and get at least a competitive team out there. This is like lipstick on a pig
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It revitalized Denver.
Be mad, I'm just saying. |
Voting No
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i would get some damn hitting in here |
As an out of towner this is great as I typically stay in the Crossroads anyway
As a resident it would be nice if there were more transit options but baby steps I guess Depending on how the footprint shakes out I do feel for some of the potential impact on businesses. The Crossroads has done a really good job of developing itself in a non-commercial way. It would suck to lose that vibe but that typically means it'll develop in another part of the city |
As long as they bring along the George Brett statue, so the ass kicking can continue, it's all good!
https://live.staticflickr.com/9/1520...ddd449d0_b.jpg http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/data:...9FFWh0c8mpM//Z |
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The greatest scam ever run on KC if this happens. Voters need to say no. But Voters in KC have never demonstrated they think.
The decline of the cities is irreversible |
it's a pipe dream for sure but as someone who wants KC to move away from a car centric city, I'm hopeful that the downtown stadium can catalyze much needed public transit infrastructure. One good sign though is that KC recently eliminated their parking minimums (KC is 1/3 parking lots lol), so hopefully this will facilitate getting rid of some of the parking lots and turning them into things people will actually use.
It's very unlikely to happen but I'd love to see the trolley trail get turned into an actual trolley route. Build an east west route and KC will slowly become the envy of even european cities. |
When San Diego decided to build Petco Park in downtown people had the same concerns some of you are complaining about.
However, the stadium did wonders to revitalize an aged, ugly portion of downtown San Diego and that area has thrived since. We have public transportation (trolley) as well as a number of parking lots/structures that help alleviate the congestion issue. Also helps that there's multiple freeway entrances near by. |
I want to know what the Chiefs get? Heated seats?
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You also have to thin it was easy for you to park then walk into the stadium. Most ganes it doesn’t take long. Especially Royals games That’s the thing the flow of traffic will never improve. And most of the parking will be parking garages. It’s going to take forever to get in and then to get out And the streetcar is limited. The city needs light rail. Which will never happen |
I live pretty much the same distance from Kansas City and St. Louis. KC is like 20 miles closer or so not that big of a deal. When I go to a Royals or Chiefs game, I drive up and come home. But if I go to a Cardinals game, I get a hotel and turn a one day trip into two.
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Thinking about the "congestion" concerns: 1. The stadium will seat 34,000. This is a smaller footprint. 2. I'm sure the team is counting on increasing season ticket sales to companies that have offices downtown. There are 10s of thousands of people who drive in and park at their corporate offices downtown every day. If you work at HR Block, or JE Dunn, etc. you're already parked in a lot, and can hop on the streetcar or walk to this stadium site. 3. There are MORE parking spaces within a few blocks of the new stadium location than at the current location 4. UBER man. Getting an Uber from Brookside/Waldo/JoCO to the Crossroads is an easy deal. It's harder to get them out to the current location. 5. Streetcar Between the streetcar, and rideshare services, and trying to attract more business people who just ... stay for the evening instead of commuting home... you're not going to have 34,000 people trying to drive down there and park for the game all at once. |
Also apps like SpotHero where you can buy a spot for a specified duration
I used it all over Chicago and for games at Chase here in PHX |
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They also had a bottleneck strategy several years ago... I remembered basically doing laps around the stadiums, it was so bad. And sometimes it's really easy to get out because they keep the lines moving, but other times not so much. The easiest way in and out is parking in like L and then walking back to your car and basically being out of that congestion. Very similar to downtown... I almost always park up at like 8th and Main and it's incredibly easy getting out. Parking garages aren't bad as long as there's a constant stream of cars leaving (and not being tied up by foot traffic or cross traffic).... it's no different than funneling huge parking lots into one or two exit paths. |
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Guys I've lived in the DC area for the better part of 30 years. I am excited for KC. The downtown parks in DC and Baltimore (not to mention other cities to visit like Boston, San Francisco, NOT Oakland, etc.) are really just great venues that breathe new life into the city. A downtown ballpark is great. For Chiefs games the tailgating is great, but for baseball who TF wants to hang around at the Truman complex? There is nothing else to do. Downtown baseball is the best. Can't wait to come visit.
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Five stars, would attend again. |
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This is awesome and anyone that doesn't think so is a ****ing pleb ass whiner.
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This sucks bad. Let's ruin a KC success story- an almost entirely locally owned thriving entertainment district, rip it all out, and put in a stadium for a team that will lose more than it wins in perpetuity. Huge mistake.
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Leaving downtown is sure going to be fun on Royals game nights.
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But it's all coming anyways. |
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It's a ****ing crime. |
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It's not like they tore down the original Gates BBQ to build the arena and P&L... what was there before, Temptations?
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The business district part of downtown is your normal stuff. This stadium going in south of I-70 will be destroying a very hip, happening arts/music/brewery/restaurant district full of life. Nothing shitty about it. |
All the parade coverage has been right where the stadium will be.
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This plan has all of the same actors, with the added goat**** of destroying a KC success story to replace it with another round of tax abatements and corporate chain bullshit funnelling the money out of the city again. This isn't progress, it's a grift. |
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Yeah, it would suck if they replaced The Belfry with some generic place, or a few other places... but not seeing much in the construction zone between Grand and Locust and 17th and to the north. I'd love walking from Taps on Main or Oak and Steel to a game or having a beer after (and not being local, then walking to a hotel for the night)... huge, massive improvement over the K in that regard. |
The Record Bar, on the opposite side, The Brick. My good friends own The Pairing, as well.
It's important to realize as well that even if they don't tear your location down, you will be out of commission during building if you are on the edge, and after the stadium is complete, and you don't own the building the business is in, the rent will go through the roof and you'll simply be priced out to be replaced by a chain that can absorb the cost. |
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Anyone who's ever been afraid of a downtown park should visit Petco. Easy in/easy out. unlimited food and drink options within walking distance. It's perfect. And c'mon man....."but I tailgate at baseball games....". Really? |
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I'd probably stick with the more local stuff, too near the ballpark.. or at least less touristy/bland/better priced places.. |
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plenty of small businesses around too. |
I suppose they'll use the old stadium for overflow Chiefs crowds?
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